2022 new build homes in England to have ev chargers by law.
2022 new build homes in England to have ev chargers by law.
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rjfp1962

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loafer123

16,396 posts

238 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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How on earth they will supply the power is anyones guess.

roger.mellie

4,640 posts

75 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Saw that earlier and was waiting for someone to post it. First thought was happy to see it, especially if charging points are going to become an expected utility like water taps for any house with parking availability. But I’m guessing there’ll be plenty of possible exemptions. If it helps rather than hinders the need for standardisation I’d like it even more.

Smiljan

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220 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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smile Who was it?

rover 623gsi

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184 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Tbh - this seems a pretty reasonable proposal

speedy_thrills

7,850 posts

266 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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I just plug mine into a standard wall socket overnight, the average daily commute in the UK is under 20 miles so most people won't need a fast charge port for their EV.

That said if I go any major city I go by motorcycle anyway.

Edited by speedy_thrills on Monday 22 November 14:01

KingNothing

3,306 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Smiljan said:


smile Who was it?
With exception of maybe a handful of the social housing houses that have been built on all the new build estates near to me, all the rest of the privately owned houses on those estates have driveways and garages. Can understand restrictions might stop some new builds having driveways and garages, but I'd say majority being built have provision for off street parking by now.

Better proposal for this might have been solar panels and storage batteries being a requirement as well, because I don't where all the supply is going to come for all this demand they're predicting.

Edited by KingNothing on Monday 22 November 14:10

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

179 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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speedy_thrills said:
I just plug mine into a standard wall socket overnight, the average daily commute in the UK is under 20 miles so most people won't need a fast charge port for their EV.

That said if I go any major city I go by motorcycle anyway.

Edited by speedy_thrills on Monday 22 November 14:01
An external socket that is grounded locally?

crankedup5

10,917 posts

58 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Going to be some good money to be earned installing these power chargers.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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rover 623gsi said:
Tbh - this seems a pretty reasonable proposal
Indeed.

Electric cars are coming on a grand scale, so makes perfect sense to ensure that more chargers are available.

It may even force developers to think more carefully how they plan communal parking areas, and make sure spaces are properly located in relation to apartments or other dense developments.


loafer123 said:
How on earth they will supply the power is anyones guess.
The National Grid have said repeatedly for the last few years that the infrastructure can cope with the change to EV in 2030, and even a rapid surge in EV ownership before 2030, so I think we can stop worrying about it.

crankedup5 said:
Going to be some good money to be earned installing these power chargers.
There are already a few large companies specialising in EV charge point installation. We use them at work for social housing development or redevelopment to ensure consistency of charger installation.

thebraketester

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161 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Surely forcing the installation of solar panels would be a better move.

Chris Type R

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272 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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crankedup5 said:
Going to be some good money to be earned installing these power chargers.
One of the largest houses with the newest cars outside on our local "new" estate has a liveried power charger installer van parked outside of it in the evenings.

Jiebo

1,083 posts

119 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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crankedup5 said:
Going to be some good money to be earned installing these power chargers.
I live in a large development of flats with underground parking. We’ve had quotes to just get power into the basement for over £25k. Excluding the connection to individuals bays, which we didn’t inquire about as it’s not feasible.

There does seem to be a gap in the market and lack of competition for underground parking, otherwise small companies wouldn’t get away with quoting £25k+.

roger.mellie

4,640 posts

75 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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crankedup5 said:
Going to be some good money to be earned installing these power chargers.
And sure why not? wink.

The price difference will be minuscule on the price of a property, no issues with someone earning a few quid out of it.

gazapc

1,385 posts

183 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Jiebo said:
crankedup5 said:
Going to be some good money to be earned installing these power chargers.
I live in a large development of flats with underground parking. We’ve had quotes to just get power into the basement for over £25k. Excluding the connection to individuals bays, which we didn’t inquire about as it’s not feasible.

There does seem to be a gap in the market and lack of competition for underground parking, otherwise small companies wouldn’t get away with quoting £25k+.
I guess you would hope that if they factor it into the original design, they can fit the extra cable and chargers cheaper during the existing construction works than a one off retrofit.


Obviously the devil is in the detail, but seems a sensibile proposal.

AJL308

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179 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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thebraketester said:
Surely forcing the installation of solar panels would be a better move.
Not sure if "better" but it's surely a worthwhile thing to mandate? When you think about it, you could probably install a large surface area of solar panelling on an average house. Surely technology mustn't be too far off whereby you can design windows as solar panels? You can already specify all manner of coatings to reduce various parts of the spectrum coming into your house so as not to fade furniture, etc. One of my cars has an invisible foil in the windscreen which is used as a defroster. Utilising similar technology to capture solar power can't be rocket science.

JagLover

46,048 posts

258 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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rover 623gsi said:
Tbh - this seems a pretty reasonable proposal
Yes agreed on that. Many cars are going to be electric in the future and this is the government giving a nudge. I would guess for places with carparks they will build the car parks with charging points.

Sheepshanks

39,293 posts

142 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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gazapc said:
I guess you would hope that if they factor it into the original design, they can fit the extra cable and chargers cheaper during the existing construction works than a one off retrofit.
Had a quote to put the cable in place during our refurb, as incoming supply is opposite side of house to garage and all that area is being rebuilt, so would be a doddle. Was quite surprised to be quoted £475+VAT. For armoured cable too - when it'll be running through the house.

Mr Pointy

12,827 posts

182 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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If they just fitted the breaker in the consumer unit & ran in 6/10mm armoured to a suitable point ouside it would be an excellent start as those are the tricky bits. Bolting a charger to the wall is the easy bit.

Evanivitch

25,854 posts

145 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
If they just fitted the breaker in the consumer unit & ran in 6/10mm armoured to a suitable point ouside it would be an excellent start as those are the tricky bits. Bolting a charger to the wall is the easy bit.
Yep!

Chances are the requirements will be weak and new homes will just end up with an outdoor 3-pin socket...