Will my backdated pay rise be paid?
Will my backdated pay rise be paid?
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Bandit110

Original Poster:

314 posts

126 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Hi all, I hope someone can can give me an answer as I don't know where to find it...

The company I work for have two weeks ago, agreed a pay rise with the staff, to be backdated to April 1st. The payment has not yet been paid and as I am about to give a week notice to leave I'm wondering if they're obliged to pay it if I haven't received it by the time I leave.

Hopefully someone can clear it up for me smile


paintman

7,846 posts

212 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Bandit110 said:
Hi all, I hope someone can can give me an answer as I don't know where to find it...

The company I work for have two weeks ago, agreed a pay rise with the staff, to be backdated to April 1st. The payment has not yet been paid and as I am about to give a week notice to leave I'm wondering if they're obliged to pay it if I haven't received it by the time I leave.

Hopefully someone can clear it up for me smile
What did the department responsible for paying staff at the company tell you when you asked them?

MightyBadger

3,776 posts

72 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Have you tried asking accounts at the place you work?

Bandit110

Original Poster:

314 posts

126 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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paintman said:
What did the department responsible for paying staff at the company tell you when you asked them?
I've never seen or spoke to the accounts department, they're not on site and I've no idea how to contact them or if I'd get the correct answer...

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

85 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Have you had formal written confirmation of the pay rise?

If so it seems very likely you'll get paid it

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

256 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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I'd they do, get an MX5 with the cash. Then post up pics.

KTF

10,466 posts

172 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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If only the company that you work for had an HR person/department who would be able to answer this for you...

The spinner of plates

18,080 posts

222 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Surely if not sure who to ask, you land it on your line manager first.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,676 posts

257 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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I know that if somebody was leaving I wouldn't pay the back pay. From the company's point of view there is nothing in it for them?

The larger the corporation the more chance of getting paid I'd guess. As already said, only somebody who makes/authorises the payments can say!

thumbup Good luck!

prand

6,230 posts

218 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I know that if somebody was leaving I wouldn't pay the back pay. From the company's point of view there is nothing in it for them?

The larger the corporation the more chance of getting paid I'd guess. As already said, only somebody who makes/authorises the payments can say!

thumbup Good luck!

Why do you say that? If its a salary recalculation and its on work carried out over previous months it certainly should be paid. Glad I don't work for you...

Muzzer79

12,632 posts

209 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Bandit110 said:
The company I work for have two weeks ago, agreed a pay rise with the staff, to be backdated to April 1st.
How was this pay rise agreed?

Are you in a union environment? Did you get a formal letter confirming said pay rise? Or have you been informed verbally?

If it was verbal, it's perfectly possible to say you are excluded. If you have had written confirmation then it's more likely that you'll get it as back pay.

However, first port of call is HR. Don't assume they are going to shaft you until they give you information which makes you think you're being shafted.... smile

kestral

2,117 posts

229 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Bandit110 said:
Hi all, I hope someone can can give me an answer as I don't know where to find it...

The company I work for have two weeks ago, agreed a pay rise with the staff, to be backdated to April 1st. The payment has not yet been paid and as I am about to give a week notice to leave I'm wondering if they're obliged to pay it if I haven't received it by the time I leave.

Hopefully someone can clear it up for me smile
The default position is you are entitled to it unless you have agreed otherwise.

Bandit110

Original Poster:

314 posts

126 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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kestral said:
The default position is you are entitled to it unless you have agreed otherwise.
Brilliant, thankyou!

Haven't mentioned it to line manager as I haven't mentioned about my plans just yet.

The rise was agreed via a Ballot organised by the union so yes it's written down and formalised...

Why do people feel the need to to be the smartass?
What did the department responsible for paying staff at the company tell you when you asked them?
If only the company that you work for had an HR person/department who would be able to answer this for you...

rolleyes

carl_w

10,364 posts

280 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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I haven't been a permie for a long time, but one place I worked insisted on your final payment being in the form of a cheque. You had to sign a piece of paper saying they didn't owe you any more money before they would give you the cheque.

I'm sure things have moved on but be careful about signing any exit paperwork until you've got the cash in the bank.

55palfers

6,236 posts

186 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Why not offer a month's notice and hopefully you will have had a payday and the money will be in your bank?

GC8

19,910 posts

212 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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KTF said:
If only the company that you work for had an HR person/department who would be able to answer this for you...
He is clearly asking whether they have to, not when they will.

If only so many posters here were not dicks, eh?

KTF

10,466 posts

172 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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GC8 said:
If only so many posters here were not dicks, eh?
We dont know the company they are working for and we dont know the policy they have in place.

Every single answer on here is a guess. The only place they are going to get the actual answer from is their HR dept or line manager.

Pinkie15

1,248 posts

102 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Can understand not wanting to alert line manager you’re about to leave.

But to me question to ask/ clarify is when is the back-dated pay rise going to be paid ?

If this month just wait to 1st December then hand in notice.

If not this month, could get complicated, but being ‘unionised’ you should still get it even if they’re planning to pay it next month, or later.

QuattroDave

1,756 posts

150 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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kestral said:
Bandit110 said:
Hi all, I hope someone can can give me an answer as I don't know where to find it...

The company I work for have two weeks ago, agreed a pay rise with the staff, to be backdated to April 1st. The payment has not yet been paid and as I am about to give a week notice to leave I'm wondering if they're obliged to pay it if I haven't received it by the time I leave.

Hopefully someone can clear it up for me smile
The default position is you are entitled to it unless you have agreed otherwise.
Seconded.

All the companies I've worked for wouldn't entertain the idea of withholding backdated pay just because someones leaving. The miniscule amount the company stands to save will easily get wiped out by employee badwill (they always find out!) and stand to lose a whole lot more if it goes legal.

I've largely worked in finance in FTSE 100 companies but since contracting I've worked in £15m TO companies and even at that size they're wise enough to know it's just not worth pishing around for peanuts.... That is of course unless you've really rubbed someone very senior up the wrong way smile

QuattroDave

1,756 posts

150 months

Friday 26th November 2021
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Also to follow up presumably the company would have issued an email or letter regarding delaying the annual pay review? Save or get a copy of that and also save the correspondence about the recent confirmation of backdated pay award.

If you've got those then don't feel you need to hold off handing in notice until it's been paid as they'll be obligated to pay if confirmed. It's not like bonuses which are surrendered when you hand in your notice.