Gatwick airport drop off - PCN with autopay?
Gatwick airport drop off - PCN with autopay?
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Whataguy

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1,134 posts

109 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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I've received a PCN for using the Gatwick airport £5 drop off zone... except I have an autopay account and have an email and VAT receipt showing payment was made for the exact date and time of the PCN and the car registration is correct!

Is this a one-off or has their system had a meltdown and started sending out lots of fines for people who have already paid?#

They have only introduced the system not long ago, so it looks like it may have some teething problems.


Edited by Whataguy on Saturday 27th November 15:37

Tommo87

5,457 posts

142 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Whataguy said:
I've received a PCN for using the Gatwick airport £5 drop off zone... except I have an autopay account and have an email and VAT receipt showing payment was made for the exact date and time of the PCN and the car registration is correct!

Is this a one-off or has their system had a meltdown and started sending out lots of fines for people who have already paid?#

They have only introduced the system not long ago, so it looks like it may have some teething problems.


Edited by Whataguy on Saturday 27th November 15:37
All you will get off here is opinions, or worse still, some people who want to use you as some revengeful proxy.

First step, is to appeal with the proof of payment.
I did similar for a fine in a private car park, and they immediately dropped it.

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

92 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Probably a mis-read of your reg plate by the cameras - as above just call them and should be easy to sort out.

Whataguy

Original Poster:

1,134 posts

109 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Thanks, it's a weird one - car reg on the PCN and the autopay site are both the same.

The exact entry and exit date/time down to the second are the same on the autopay VAT receipt and the PCN.

It looks like one system hasn't been talking to another.

FYI It took them 30 days to issue the PCN.

Typically, they send the PCN out on a Friday and you can't contact anyone about it until next week.

I've filed an online appeal - will be interesting to see how they proceed. There might be others who have forgot they signed up for autopay and maybe just paid the incorrect fine.

Automaton

146 posts

70 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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My guess/wild conjecture is.. the machine mis-read your plate, auto-pay somehow not linked to plate reading or two different cameras and the fine camera just reads plate, incorrectly and sees wrong plate not on prepay list.. pcn got sent to wrong person, they appealed it, human checked photo and figured out real plate and sent fine to you without checking if you paid.
I'm sure it'll all pan out when you appeal anyway, do report back.

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

92 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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^ the above sounds very plausible yes

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 27th November 2021
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Canon_Fodder said:
Probably a mis-read of your reg plate by the cameras - as above just call them and should be easy to sort out.
And inform the Daily Fail as errors like this should be widely reported as other people may just pay up rather than challenge 'the computer'.

Neddy Sea Goon

242 posts

77 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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speedyguy said:
And inform the Daily Fail as errors like this should be widely reported as other people may just pay up rather than challenge 'the computer'.
Maybe they haven't got a very good compo face, nor do they want everyone to know how much their house is worth

NikBartlett

703 posts

110 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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How else do you think they will pay for the installation costs of the new sytem ? wink

solo2

1,009 posts

176 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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I'm waiting for my PCN to drop on to the door mat. Registered with them as a Blue Badge holder so free, emailed in advance and confirmed by email date and 3 hour window of time. Online system is showing I owe them £5.


Griffith4ever

6,852 posts

64 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Their ANPR isn't great. I drove through twice. 1st time I wasn't on their system. Second time I was.

Whataguy

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1,134 posts

109 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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They've confirmed an issue with their systems issuing some people with PCNs when they actually have valid autopay accounts.

It's being looked into, so hopefully resolved soon.

The one month delay in issuing a PCN could mean a big bundle of them if you were using the drop off frequently, as you wouldn't know until they arrived as for me.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Whataguy said:
They've confirmed an issue with their systems issuing some people with PCNs when they actually have valid autopay accounts.

It's being looked into, so hopefully resolved soon.
That aside it still needs widely publicising to dissuade people just 'paying up'.

Oilchange

9,697 posts

289 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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All I have to say is there is a Christmas kitty to top up and you’re the wallet that’s going to fill it.

Similar thing happened to me at one of those criminally crap train station parking things, followed by st loads of threatening bailiff letters for £200 a pop, three at a time.
The ‘evidence’ they showed was me entering the place on two separate days. Not overstaying as they claimed.
Legalised extortion, nothing more.

silverfoxcc

8,396 posts

174 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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AS per others on here. Send them photocopies of your invoices that match with their request for payment., but if you want some good advice, put it up on pepipoo for them to look at

If all your ducks are in order ,and after pointing it out to them and telling them to cease contact, if they persist you could have some spending money for misuse of GDPR ( i think) but check on pepipoo.. they love this sort of challenge and it doesnt cost a penny to you


moffspeed

3,597 posts

236 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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It really is extortion isn’t it ? A fiver to make a 30 second drop off - with every chance that the passenger will then add to Gatwick’s revenue at one of their shops/restaurants.

I flew in today and organised for my wife to pick me up from the Shell garage at the NT roundabout. Along the approx 400 metre entirely legal pavement walk no less than 4 signs tried to persuade me to do a U turn and return to the charge zone. Despicable.



Edited by moffspeed on Wednesday 6th April 20:00

moffspeed

3,597 posts

236 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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Another variant…and the wording is an entire bare-faced lie, this sign was literally alongside the pavement which I believe would be categorised as a "walking route"….



Edited by moffspeed on Wednesday 6th April 21:03

Monkeylegend

29,185 posts

260 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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moffspeed said:
It really is extortion isn’t it ? A fiver to make a 30 second drop off - with every chance that the passenger will then add to Gatwick’s revenue at one of their shops/restaurants.

I flew in today and organised for my wife to pick me up from the Shell garage at the NT roundabout. Along the approx 400 metre entirely legal pavement walk no less than 4 signs tried to persuade me to do a U turn and return to the charge zone. Despicable.



Edited by moffspeed on Wednesday 6th April 20:00
Wouldn't be surprised if you get a fine for stopping there to pick up.

Griffith4ever

6,852 posts

64 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
Wouldn't be surprised if you get a fine for stopping there to pick up.
Currently, its the only "free" area. I was sent to wait there by my valet co. as I arrived early in my car.

It's laughable.

Airport intrudices entirely unreasonable fee for daring to even drive by the terminal. Canny public think "sod that" and pick up from the near by petrol station. Airport then place multiple signes telling you not to walk between the petrol station and terminal.

Next up will be rolls of barbed wire along the pavement.....

moffspeed

3,597 posts

236 months

Wednesday 6th April 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
Wouldn't be surprised if you get a fine for stopping there to pick up.
Thought of that - so we put £10 worth of diesel in as a precaution, probably enough to get us up to the M23/M25 junction.

Times are hard...