Speed Limiters on Classic Cars
Discussion
If they become compulsory in the future and the viability of owning an old classic is threatened, would a simple GPS activated speed limiter be quite a simple retrofit.
I was thinking of a device that just fits in the wire from the coil to the battery and cuts the spark. I do not think that the engine would stall as the spark would return when the correct speed is resumed
I was thinking of a device that just fits in the wire from the coil to the battery and cuts the spark. I do not think that the engine would stall as the spark would return when the correct speed is resumed
Do all classic cars require seat belts to be retro-fitted if they didn't come with them originally? - No.
Do all classic cars require airbags to be retro-fitted if they didn't come with them originally? - No.
Do all classic cars require catalytic converters to be fitted if they didn't come with them originally? - No.
Do all classic cars require daylight running lights to be fitted if they didn't come with them originally? - No.
Do all classic cars require hazard warning lights to be retro-fitted if they didn't come with them originally? - No.
When new safety/emission regulations are brought in, they are not retrospective, because in most cases, it would be too impractical and costly to do so.
Speed limiters will not be the end of classic cars, the loss of petrol stations due to a switch to electric/hydrogen vehicles will be, when it's no longer profitable to make petrol/diesel fuel - Which won't happen for at least a couple of decades.
Do all classic cars require airbags to be retro-fitted if they didn't come with them originally? - No.
Do all classic cars require catalytic converters to be fitted if they didn't come with them originally? - No.
Do all classic cars require daylight running lights to be fitted if they didn't come with them originally? - No.
Do all classic cars require hazard warning lights to be retro-fitted if they didn't come with them originally? - No.
When new safety/emission regulations are brought in, they are not retrospective, because in most cases, it would be too impractical and costly to do so.
Speed limiters will not be the end of classic cars, the loss of petrol stations due to a switch to electric/hydrogen vehicles will be, when it's no longer profitable to make petrol/diesel fuel - Which won't happen for at least a couple of decades.
tapkaJohnD said:
That's interesting!
Not that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
It's the free market. That's what Quitlings wanted.Not that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
Not having a speed limiter is what's going to make your car much more attractive to the enthusiast than a new speed limited variant which dishes out automatic speeding fines, especially if it is a low production high performance sports car.
Big engined manual sportscars that are not too old may be set to appreciate considerably - eg BMW M cars, Jaguar F-Types ,Morgan V8s, Porsches, Ferraris, etc - at least whilst petrol is still readily available. Even then, you may be able to order it in 20 litre containers from Amazon to store in your garden shed.....
Big engined manual sportscars that are not too old may be set to appreciate considerably - eg BMW M cars, Jaguar F-Types ,Morgan V8s, Porsches, Ferraris, etc - at least whilst petrol is still readily available. Even then, you may be able to order it in 20 litre containers from Amazon to store in your garden shed.....
tapkaJohnD said:
That's interesting!
Not that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
John
Surely Brexit could mean that we enjoy our classics with normal speed restrictions allowing us to enjoy motoring here but not on the continentNot that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
John
and as for running out of petrol in the future, I am sure a conversion to alcohol would not be difficult, the driver could always use it if classic cars are banned!
Zumbruk said:
tapkaJohnD said:
That's interesting!
Not that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
It's the free market. That's what Quitlings wanted.Not that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
there is a world outside the EU and I think they have different regulations , and yes we are still part of Europe just not under the petty empire’s jack boot.
Ivan stewart said:
Zumbruk said:
tapkaJohnD said:
That's interesting!
Not that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
It's the free market. That's what Quitlings wanted.Not that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
there is a world outside the EU and I think they have different regulations , and yes we are still part of Europe just not under the petty empire’s jack boot.
And yes, I'm laughing *at* you. Seek professional psychiatric help.
volvos60s60 said:
Not having a speed limiter is what's going to make your car much more attractive to the enthusiast than a new speed limited variant which dishes out automatic speeding fines, especially if it is a low production high performance sports car.
Big engined manual sportscars that are not too old may be set to appreciate considerably - eg BMW M cars, Jaguar F-Types ,Morgan V8s, Porsches, Ferraris, etc - at least whilst petrol is still readily available. Even then, you may be able to order it in 20 litre containers from Amazon to store in your garden shed.....
How would a speed limited car hand out automated speeding fines if it is never speeding? Big engined manual sportscars that are not too old may be set to appreciate considerably - eg BMW M cars, Jaguar F-Types ,Morgan V8s, Porsches, Ferraris, etc - at least whilst petrol is still readily available. Even then, you may be able to order it in 20 litre containers from Amazon to store in your garden shed.....
Dingu said:
How would a speed limited car hand out automated speeding fines if it is never speeding?
This could happen if there is the option to manually override the speed control (whether legally or otherwise). You will then potentially still get automatically generated speeding fines based on data transmitted by your car. It may also transmit your driving habits and transgressions to you insurance company.Classic cars may be the only route to fully driver controlled motoring, free of electronic controls. This may make them really quite desirable on the basis that there will be no new car options offering that level of freedom
Edited by volvos60s60 on Tuesday 30th November 14:06
Zumbruk said:
Ivan stewart said:
Zumbruk said:
tapkaJohnD said:
That's interesting!
Not that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
It's the free market. That's what Quitlings wanted.Not that new cars (NEW cars!) will have mandatory speed limiters, but that this is EU legistation that UK manufacturers will follow. No doubt the prospect of UK cars being unable to cross the Channel would not be a good selling point!
So much for Brexit!
there is a world outside the EU and I think they have different regulations , and yes we are still part of Europe just not under the petty empire’s jack boot.
And yes, I'm laughing *at* you. Seek professional psychiatric help.
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