Cigarette Boats
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elms

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1,954 posts

275 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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I know its a stupid idea but I have been looking at these, they seem to start at reasonable price points although 95% of them are in the USA.

Has anyone here owned or ran one in the UK?


Stick Legs

8,343 posts

188 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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1)Very expensive to run on a per hour basis.

2)Support required is extensive.

3)Petrol & boats is a historically terrible combination as everything required to keep a boat watertight allows fuel vapor to pool low down with attendant risk of explosion.

4)Pretty pointless given most port speed limits are 6-10kts and if you go fast outside port limits with any kind of chop you get the kind of spinal compression that gives Martin-Baker seat designers sleepless nights.

5)90% of other port users will think you are a prat (not as bad as jet skis, but about there).

6)They are called cigarette boats because they are long & slim, expensive, addictive & bad for your health.

The thing is, they do look awfully good fun!
Watching with interest!


Edited by Stick Legs on Monday 29th November 10:58

Simpo Two

91,338 posts

288 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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'Cigarette' - having done a quick google, is that the same as 'offshore racer'?

No reason you couldn't have a turbo-diesel one...

popeyewhite

23,008 posts

143 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Not terribly glamorous running one of these off the UK coast I'd have thought. Day trip to the IOM is hardly crossing the Florida straits... .

elms

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1,954 posts

275 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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popeyewhite said:
Not terribly glamorous running one of these off the UK coast I'd have thought. Day trip to the IOM is hardly crossing the Florida straits... .
True, but no fun or glamour in not owning something otherwise

One Amp Andy

1,462 posts

213 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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elms said:
I know its a stupid idea but I have been looking at these, they seem to start at reasonable price points although 95% of them are in the USA.

Has anyone here owned or ran one in the UK?
It's a terrible idea. I have also been looking at them. Buy one.

AlexIT

1,685 posts

161 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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One Amp Andy said:
elms said:
I know its a stupid idea but I have been looking at these, they seem to start at reasonable price points although 95% of them are in the USA.

Has anyone here owned or ran one in the UK?
It's a terrible idea. I have also been looking at them. Buy one.
Couldn't sum it up better.

A long list of NO and no actual reason to buy one, so basically a must buy biggrin
I had the chance to have my parents' boat moored alongside one for a couple of years and been out a few times as a passenger. I think the best part is working on it, I don't think it has been used more than for 30 minutes sorties as it becomes soon tiresome: as you're off the coast it requires a high level of attention, you can't see much around and it's bloody noisy.

But all those chromy and shiny bits in the engines bay yum

Junior Bianno

1,400 posts

216 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Cool. Get this one. Please post pics when it arrives


anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Junior Bianno said:
Cool. Get this one. Please post pics when it arrives

Ooh I like the look of that!

popeyewhite

23,008 posts

143 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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elms said:
popeyewhite said:
Not terribly glamorous running one of these off the UK coast I'd have thought. Day trip to the IOM is hardly crossing the Florida straits... .
True, but no fun or glamour in not owning something otherwise
It's the UK that's not glamorous, the boats are sublime! If I had the cash I'd have one, but in the South of France maybe, or the Ionians.

bucksmanuk

2,403 posts

193 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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My mates and I seriously considered a similar type of powerboat – Fountain Fever 33 that was available in the USA. The idea was for the 4 of us to share at it. This is not the actual boat, but it was identical to this :-

It was cheap enough in the US, but import duty, VAT, recreational craft directive, shipping, and insurance, for starters, meant the bills just kept coming. If you buy one already here, much of this disappears.
One mate went to the US to have a look at it in Oct’19. He said it looked and sounded amazing.
The seller said at 60 knots, it went through a gallon every 53 seconds, although he told him you probably won’t have any teeth left after about 5 minutes.
I’m wondering how many Americans are thinking of diesels or selling them with the gas price increases. Or do they not care?
You might as well buy one - all of us want you to, how much of a reason do you need?

aeropilot

39,717 posts

250 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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bucksmanuk said:
The seller said at 60 knots, it went through a gallon every 53 seconds
A US gal is smaller than an Imperial one, so you should be able to get an Imperial gallon to last just over the minute mark, so that's OK then in the world of sensible man maths rofl


Condi

19,702 posts

194 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Used to see them when offshore racing was bigger, Dad would take us down and the sound was incredible. If you are going to buy one (and you should!) then it has to have internal V8 petrol engines, not outboards. The other make to consider is Donzi, which might be slightly cheaper, but look similar and have similar (if not better) racing pedigree.

trickywoo

13,625 posts

253 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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aeropilot said:
bucksmanuk said:
The seller said at 60 knots, it went through a gallon every 53 seconds
A US gal is smaller than an Imperial one, so you should be able to get an Imperial gallon to last just over the minute mark, so that's OK then in the world of sensible man maths rofl
That actually sounds quite economical. A Boston Whaler 420 is double that consumption at 10 knots less.

smifffymoto

5,186 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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You could pay the fuel bill by doing drug runs or pleasure trips from Northern France.

andy97

4,780 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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See if you can pick up a second hand Dai Fei from Hong Kong. 80 knots on the plane, usually with a BMW or Mercedes in the back, having been pinched to order to take back to mainland China.
Not sure whether the smuggling still goes on now it all under Chinese control, but there were hundreds of them back in the late 80s and early 90s.

robm3

4,930 posts

250 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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andy97 said:
See if you can pick up a second hand Dai Fei from Hong Kong. 80 knots on the plane, usually with a BMW or Mercedes in the back, having been pinched to order to take back to mainland China.
Not sure whether the smuggling still goes on now it all under Chinese control, but there were hundreds of them back in the late 80s and early 90s.
Wow, fascinating stuff Andy.. none left now bar the below one:

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=191360049377891&am...


PushedDover

7,087 posts

76 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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Used to use my distant cousins on Lake Huron out of Detroit region. A Checkmate,
Pick up truck, wheels, trailer, all matching and rather cool.

Went like stink on the lakes and a few of their pals had them so four abreast at 75mph was a spectacle and a noise.

Very hard to drink a can of beer at 75mph on water I recall.

Huntsman

9,096 posts

273 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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Its worth reading the background to Thunder Row and Don Aronow.

Then buy British and get a Fairey.

robm3

4,930 posts

250 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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Really can't think about cigarette's without a reference to this, when it all goes wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvEE3_mBzi8