Plans for 2022?
Discussion
In these uncertain times, do you have any plans already booked and paid for or are you just forming flexible ideas at the mo?
We are hopefully off for 2 months to Spain in early January. It's all booked and planned out.
After that we have outline ideas for the SoF in May/June and Italy in September. In between we'll have a liberal sprinkling of UK trips. Cheltenham/Cirencester to see friends and rellies; and Pembrey as it's fairly local to us, will feature prominently.
So, being optimistic, we hope for a business as usual year.
Lets see how it pans out....
What about you folks?
We are hopefully off for 2 months to Spain in early January. It's all booked and planned out.
After that we have outline ideas for the SoF in May/June and Italy in September. In between we'll have a liberal sprinkling of UK trips. Cheltenham/Cirencester to see friends and rellies; and Pembrey as it's fairly local to us, will feature prominently.
So, being optimistic, we hope for a business as usual year.
Lets see how it pans out....
What about you folks?
Selling the motorhome! Haven’t used it much over the last two years - losing dad, estate to settle, house to sell, mum in care home etc - (and lockdown obv), and we need the dosh to put towards a house extension 
We’ll miss it for sure; it’s been a great mh (our third) so we hope to get another in time if funds permit.
Enjoy your travel plans for next year guys

We’ll miss it for sure; it’s been a great mh (our third) so we hope to get another in time if funds permit.
Enjoy your travel plans for next year guys

We were planning on going to France over Christmas and New Year in the campervan, through Normandy and into Brittany. There were four hoops to jump through but not too much of a barrier, but now there's a fifth hoop imposed and possibly a sixth coming up whilst we are away which could impact our return. We can't be arsed now so we're not bothering, having a posh hotel in central London for a week instead.
Hopefully get across the channel during the summer, nothing specific, we just make it up as we go, if there are still hoops that we can't be arsed with we'll go to Ireland again (CTA so no hoops). Planning on three months in Japan at the end of the year, if they've opened their borders up by then, we'll jump through as many hoops and barriers as we can for that!
Has anyone else given up on the Continental trips? It doesn't seem as easy as it was just a few weeks ago with more possible restrictions set to come very quickly, at least for Q1 into Q2.
Hopefully get across the channel during the summer, nothing specific, we just make it up as we go, if there are still hoops that we can't be arsed with we'll go to Ireland again (CTA so no hoops). Planning on three months in Japan at the end of the year, if they've opened their borders up by then, we'll jump through as many hoops and barriers as we can for that!
Has anyone else given up on the Continental trips? It doesn't seem as easy as it was just a few weeks ago with more possible restrictions set to come very quickly, at least for Q1 into Q2.
21st Century said:
Has anyone else given up on the Continental trips? It doesn't seem as easy as it was just a few weeks ago with more possible restrictions set to come very quickly, at least for Q1 into Q2.
Further afield it's a similar set up for Spain but once into the Schengen zone, I find it difficult to see how it will be policed short of all foreign vehicles being stopped at country borders.
Can't comment on possible future restrictions as we just don't know at the minute.
Edited by oblio on Thursday 2nd December 09:55
oblio said:
To my eye isn't all that is required is proof of vaccination and a self declaration form to fill in for France? Upon return to the UK you have to do a PCR test within 48 hours and fill out a Passenger Locator Form? It doesn't seem too onerous to me tbh.
Further afield it's a similar set up for Spain but once into the Schengen zone, I find it difficult to see how it will be policed short of all foreign vehicles being stopped at country borders.
Can't comment on possible future restrictions as we just don't know at the minute.
.......but it must be the likelihood of 'possible future restrictions' that will deter many people making long term plans ?Further afield it's a similar set up for Spain but once into the Schengen zone, I find it difficult to see how it will be policed short of all foreign vehicles being stopped at country borders.
Can't comment on possible future restrictions as we just don't know at the minute.
Negative test before departure
PCR test booked for return to get number to travel
Declaration
Locator
Day 2 return test whilst isolating until negative confirmed
Day 2 and day 8 return tests whilst isolating (so 10 days isolating) quite likely, Scotland are pushing this through so rest of UK may well follow as we're in panic mode.
Europe isn't too bad with the hoops though really, some countries are closing borders.
PCR test booked for return to get number to travel
Declaration
Locator
Day 2 return test whilst isolating until negative confirmed
Day 2 and day 8 return tests whilst isolating (so 10 days isolating) quite likely, Scotland are pushing this through so rest of UK may well follow as we're in panic mode.
Europe isn't too bad with the hoops though really, some countries are closing borders.
21st Century Man said:
Negative test before departure
PCR test booked for return to get number to travel
Declaration
Locator
Day 2 return test whilst isolating until negative caonfirmed
Day 2 and day 8 return tests whilst isolating (so 10 days isolating) quite likely, Scotland are pushing this through so rest of UK may well follow as we're in panic mode.
Europe isn't too bad with the hoops though really, some countries are closing borders.
The problem for many is that's just the known situation at present. It's likely to change in the UK, and individual foreign countries, quite a bit in the next few months. In 2022, I think many people may opt for a UK holiday again - or a 'simple' foreign trip that can be modified fairly easily at short notice.PCR test booked for return to get number to travel
Declaration
Locator
Day 2 return test whilst isolating until negative caonfirmed
Day 2 and day 8 return tests whilst isolating (so 10 days isolating) quite likely, Scotland are pushing this through so rest of UK may well follow as we're in panic mode.
Europe isn't too bad with the hoops though really, some countries are closing borders.
It'll only be the UK for us next year, really can't be arsed with abroad and the restrictions that seem to change daily. Must get away for a few more weekends too, the MH's been woefully underused this year. However, it was beset with a number of small niggly electrical problems which made us lose a bit of faith in it, but I found somewhere that sorts this sort of thing out, left it with the guy for a couple of days and £250 later everything was fixed with clear explanations of what had been done and why. Happy days, roll on 2022!
21st Century Man said:
Negative test before departure
PCR test booked for return to get number to travel
Declaration
Locator
Day 2 return test whilst isolating until negative confirmed
Day 2 and day 8 return tests whilst isolating (so 10 days isolating) quite likely, Scotland are pushing this through so rest of UK may well follow as we're in panic mode.
Europe isn't too bad with the hoops though really, some countries are closing borders.
I think if you are fully jabbed it's not as onerous as that. No test required AT THE MOMENT for entry and only the day 2 on return to the UK.PCR test booked for return to get number to travel
Declaration
Locator
Day 2 return test whilst isolating until negative confirmed
Day 2 and day 8 return tests whilst isolating (so 10 days isolating) quite likely, Scotland are pushing this through so rest of UK may well follow as we're in panic mode.
Europe isn't too bad with the hoops though really, some countries are closing borders.
The reason I said AT THE MOMENT is that speculation in the Press is that from Saturday a 48 hours before PCR test will be needed for all folks jabbed and unjabbed.
As you and others ay though, who knows what the near future will bring...nor indeed, I guess, how long and restrictions will be in place.
oblio said:
I think if you are fully jabbed it's not as onerous as that. No test required AT THE MOMENT for entry and only the day 2 on return to the UK.
I'm triple jabbed and my list is the situation for France, entry test for France was introduced the other day. Don't forget day 2 test is now whilst isolating, it wasn't previously. I really do expect a day 8 test whilst isolating to be imminent. My wife's a teacher and couldn't risk the latter upon return and miss the start of term. Hey Ho! 
21st Century Man said:
I'm triple jabbed and my list is the situation for France, entry test for France was introduced the other day. Don't forget day 2 test is now whilst isolating, it wasn't previously. I really do expect a day 8 test whilst isolating to be imminent. My wife's a teacher and couldn't risk the latter upon return and miss the start of term. Hey Ho! 
Our Govt website is clear that we don't need a test if jabbed...
Travellers who are fully vaccinated do not need an essential reason to travel to France and do not need to self-isolate on arrival.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/en...
Backed up by Eurotunnel amongst others...
Fully vaccinated passengers, and passengers under 12 years old, will not be required to present negative COVID tests to enter French territory
https://www.eurotunnel.com/uk/travelling-with-us/l...
...and again on the official French website...
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france...
Anyway it's academic now really as its increasingly likely that a PCR test will be required from Saturday.
As I said, it was announced the other day, I guess some sources and offcial sites are a day or two behind.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advi...
Or are you quibbling that I said introduced instead of announced? If so, chapeau.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advi...
Or are you quibbling that I said introduced instead of announced? If so, chapeau.
oblio said:
Our Govt website is clear that we don't need a test if jabbed...
Travellers who are fully vaccinated do not need an essential reason to travel to France and do not need to self-isolate on arrival.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/en...
Backed up by Eurotunnel amongst others...
Fully vaccinated passengers, and passengers under 12 years old, will not be required to present negative COVID tests to enter French territory
https://www.eurotunnel.com/uk/travelling-with-us/l...
...and again on the official French website...
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france...
Anyway it's academic now really as its increasingly likely that a PCR test will be required from Saturday.
This is the problem. Requirements will change at frequent intervals.Travellers who are fully vaccinated do not need an essential reason to travel to France and do not need to self-isolate on arrival.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/en...
Backed up by Eurotunnel amongst others...
Fully vaccinated passengers, and passengers under 12 years old, will not be required to present negative COVID tests to enter French territory
https://www.eurotunnel.com/uk/travelling-with-us/l...
...and again on the official French website...
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france...
Anyway it's academic now really as its increasingly likely that a PCR test will be required from Saturday.
We're not bothering with abroad and again will push back a villa holiday we've had planned for 2 years now.
Got a small boat and have kitted it out and intend to use it to explore the coast.
First trip is launch nearby home, travel over the Clyde, through Crinan canal and complete the Caledonian canal.
Camp wherever we end up most nights.
This chap has inspired me.. https://youtu.be/KC6AA0-Khpw
Got a small boat and have kitted it out and intend to use it to explore the coast.
First trip is launch nearby home, travel over the Clyde, through Crinan canal and complete the Caledonian canal.
Camp wherever we end up most nights.
This chap has inspired me.. https://youtu.be/KC6AA0-Khpw
21st Century Man said:
As I said, it was announced the other day, I guess some sources and offcial sites are a day or two behind.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advi...
Or are you quibbling that I said introduced instead of announced? If so, chapeau.
Not quibbling at all. I checked for my own piece of mind as I am keeping close to this myself in readiness for our trip. I mentioned twice that it was to be introduced in my previous posts. I understood your post to say that it was already here now...not that it was to be introduced. My bad.https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advi...
Or are you quibbling that I said introduced instead of announced? If so, chapeau.
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