Anti Semitic bus attack
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poo at Paul's

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14,546 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59495...

A charming bunch of ‘men’ videoed spitting and abusing some Jewish people on a bus.
Sad in itself, but up to about an hour ago, the bbc link had the video, but pixelated out the perps and did not offer any ‘description’ of them. One Wonderswhy?
Now it has been updated to show stills as the Police are looking for these guys in relation to a ‘hate crime’.

I hope plod catch up with them. Why can’t they just mind their own business. What harm are these people doing sitting on a bus?

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

59 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Are we thinking the far right or loony snack bars ??

dundarach

5,987 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Plenty of people are just not very nice, including many on here. I've experienced the usual 'sky fairies' response from many for instance.

No it isn't right, will they get these, perhaps, will it stop nope, will some on here realise that whilst they're not spitting on a bus, they're not exactly trying to create a world in which all feel accepted either, not one bit!

“The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.”

― Mark Twain


poo at Paul's

Original Poster:

14,546 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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dundarach said:
Plenty of people are just not very nice, including many on here. I've experienced the usual 'sky fairies' response from many for instance.

No it isn't right, will they get these, perhaps, will it stop nope, will some on here realise that whilst they're not spitting on a bus, they're not exactly trying to create a world in which all feel accepted either, not one bit!

“The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.”

? Mark Twain
Are you saying we should do more to create a world where we accept people should be able to freely spit at other people for sitting on a bus / being Jewish ?

PorkInsider

6,362 posts

164 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Ivan stewart said:
Are we thinking the far right or loony snack bars ??
Err... the what?

pquinn

7,167 posts

69 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Ivan stewart said:
Are we thinking the far right or loony snack bars ??
Having seen the original unedited video it was pretty obvious what flavour of loons they were.

dundarach

5,987 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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poo at Paul's said:
Are you saying we should do more to create a world where we accept people should be able to freely spit at other people for sitting on a bus / being Jewish ?
I'm saying the exact opposite.

Being free should not mean you are free to abuse anyone else, that's not freedom. It's freedom for some, not all.




s1962a

7,383 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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I posted this one earlier too. Sickening attack and totally out of order. Hope they find them

s1962a

7,383 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Ivan stewart said:
Are we thinking the far right or loony snack bars ??
Does it make a difference to the people being attacked? There were Nazi salutes and the faces look like your typical London ‘yoots’

iphonedyou

10,146 posts

180 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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dundarach said:
I'm saying the exact opposite.

Being free should not mean you are free to abuse anyone else, that's not freedom. It's freedom for some, not all.
For what it's worth, your post was as clear as day to me.

freakybacon

579 posts

186 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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These kids were celebrating Hanukkah and causing no harm to anyone.

The very idea that Jews in 2021 were treated with Nazi-level abuse in London is horrifying.

poo at Paul's

Original Poster:

14,546 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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iphonedyou said:
dundarach said:
I'm saying the exact opposite.

Being free should not mean you are free to abuse anyone else, that's not freedom. It's freedom for some, not all.
For what it's worth, your post was as clear as day to me.
Makes little semse In this context and also skilfully avoided the huge elephant in the room, (as did the BBC initially) and wants to blame phers for something?
Curious post to say the least.


poo at Paul's

Original Poster:

14,546 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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freakybacon said:
These kids were celebrating Hanukkah and causing no harm to anyone.

The very idea that Jews in 2021 were treated with Nazi-level abuse in London is horrifying.
And yet not a surprise.

Some areas of our Capital are utter cesspits, but this is Oxford Street. How does this happen and no one catch or follow them. It’s walll to wall cctv ffs.



Pothole

34,367 posts

305 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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freakybacon said:
These kids were celebrating Hanukkah and causing no harm to anyone.

The very idea that Jews in 2021 were treated with Nazi-level abuse in London is horrifying.
Waving hands, shouting and spitting on the outside of a bus is not "Nazi-level abuse" for goodness' sake. Their actions were disgusting but this kind of histrionics is just silly.

julian987R

6,840 posts

82 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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poo at Paul's said:
freakybacon said:
These kids were celebrating Hanukkah and causing no harm to anyone.

The very idea that Jews in 2021 were treated with Nazi-level abuse in London is horrifying.
And yet not a surprise.

Some areas of our Capital are utter cesspits, but this is Oxford Street. How does this happen and no one catch or follow them. It’s walll to wall cctv ffs.
huh? but Oxford Street is an utter cesspit. I'm not trying to be clever, but really, come on get real, Oxford Street is a hell hole and freak magnet




Ridgemont

8,732 posts

154 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Pothole said:
freakybacon said:
These kids were celebrating Hanukkah and causing no harm to anyone.

The very idea that Jews in 2021 were treated with Nazi-level abuse in London is horrifying.
Waving hands, shouting and spitting on the outside of a bus is not "Nazi-level abuse" for goodness' sake. Their actions were disgusting but this kind of histrionics is just silly.
Oh do shut up:

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Footage shows men spitting at the bus and apparently abusing passengers...
In the video, which was posted on social media, a man seems to make a Nazi salute and others wave their shoes - an insult in some countries.
That’s exactly how the brown shirts behaved. Are we in 1930s Germany? No. Are the behaviours similar? Yes.

Edited by Ridgemont on Friday 3rd December 00:58

JagLover

46,028 posts

258 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Likely the same types who drove around North London earlier in the year with a loud speaker saying "kill the Jews and rape their daughters".

All part of the progressive paradise we are headed towards no doubt.

Edited by JagLover on Friday 3rd December 07:22

Ian Geary

5,373 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Ridgemont said:
That’s exactly how the brown shirts behaved. Are we in 1930s Germany? No. Are the behaviours similar? Yes.

Edited by Ridgemont on Friday 3rd December 00:58
So if you picked 100 random people, and said "describe the Nazi behaviour to Jewish people?" would you get most people saying:

A). They waved their hands, shouted, and spat at them, or

B). They forced them from their homes at gunpoint, carted them across Europe to death camps, where they were systematically robbed, worked to death and then executed

Whilst the behaviour in the video is awful, and should have no place in our society, to compare it to "the Nazi's" is ridiculous, and quite rightly has been called out.

Yes, the brown shirts may have started off as street thugs, but that's not what Nazi means now. Unless you're suggesting these events are indeed a precursor to the UK moving from early 1830s German into late 1930s Germany? (Equally ridiculous)


bitchstewie

64,261 posts

233 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Looks bloody horrific yikes

Not sure how anyone can complain about anti-semitism whilst calling people "snack bars".

Fingers crossed lots of CCTV so hopefully they'll catch up with them and throw the book at them.

Derek Smith

48,816 posts

271 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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bhstewie said:
Not sure how anyone can complain about anti-semitism whilst calling people "snack bars".
I just wanted to say the same.

I was born in London, in what would now be called a multi-cultural area. We had a couple of Jewish families in our street and I didn't know for years. The first I was aware was a comment by a teacher - nasty bloke and I assume now he was anti-semitic. The outcome was the reverse of what he intended as the lad became a bit cool after the stories we'd heard about the war. For most, where you orginated was a non-issue.

This isn't a 'good old days' rant from someone terminally nostalgic; I'm just sorry that state of affairs has changed, and not for the better.