BAME dropped!

[HappyClappy]

I am pleased to read the use of the acronym BAME has been dropped by the mainstream media and about time too.

I’ve long said there is nothing more offensive than lumbering all those different cultures, colours and creeds into one generic term.

Hopefully we start to see a return to equality and treating everyone equally. Rather than this current trend of progressive liberal racism, as there is nothing positive about discrimination, no matter what ways it’s dressed up by the wokes.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/08/bannin...

[21TonyK]

What always got me was how some media referred to BAME as Black And Minority Ethnic and some as Black Asian Minority Ethnic. Couldn't even get that right!

[Puggit]

I can't keep up with what I can and cannot say, or should and should not say.

[Ari]

Puggit said:

I can't keep up with what I can and cannot say, or should and should not say.

Say nothing, wear your mask, don't travel, do as you're told.

[Evercross]

Good. Hopefully LGBTQIXYZABCD..... will be next.

I doubt it though because the shouty pseudo-trans minority have hijacked that bandwagon for their own ends....

[Lotobear]

Wifey works for the NHS, that political pressure group, and received her annual 'heroes' goody box yesterday packed full of tat like biscuits and other unhealthy stuff for keeping us all safe in 2021.

The biggest item was a thick expensive looking NHS BAME cookbook, nice rainbow flag on the front (produced by the NHS using our money) where various BAME members of staff, including some who are just Irish (FFS!) contributed a recipe many high in staurated fat. All very wholesome, even my wife was rolling her eyes.

Seems the NHS are behind the curve on this latest nudge.

Edited by Lotobear on Thursday 9th December 09:53

[Earthdweller]

Ari said:

Puggit said:

I can't keep up with what I can and cannot say, or should and should not say.

Say nothing, wear your mask, don't travel, do as you're told.

But go to the pub and have a party

[Pastor Of Muppets]

Ari said:

Puggit said:

I can't keep up with what I can and cannot say, or should and should not say.

Say nothing, wear your mask, don't travel, do as you're told.

Unless you are SNP and actually have tested covid positive then by all means jump on a train!.

Worth remembering this one as well....... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54383281

[Puggit]

Earthdweller said:

But go to the pub and have a party

Don't be daft, I'll be going to the office for a party. After I've stayed at home, working.

[GroundZero]

Puggit said:

I can't keep up with what I can and cannot say, or should and should not say.

We are living in extremely weird times of how political correctness, over the many years that it has now been in play, has shown itself to be nothing more than a failure of a particular political agenda, that has done nothing but to confuse and divide people.

I would like to see a return for people to choose their own words, language and rationale, and not have this dictated to us all by a political mindset who want to control thought, actions and language for their own benefit.

I'm also glad to see BAME dropped and agree with above posts that grouping people in the game of group identity politics, when it comes to race, is in itself racist - via the action itself of separating/grouping people for different treatment based up on their race.
(There is no other reason to group people if not to wish to treat them differently from other groups)

[crankedup5]

GroundZero said:

Puggit said:

I can't keep up with what I can and cannot say, or should and should not say.

We are living in extremely weird times of how political correctness, over the many years that it has now been in play, has shown itself to be nothing more than a failure of a particular political agenda, that has done nothing but to confuse and divide people.

I would like to see a return for people to choose their own words, language and rationale, and not have this dictated to us all by a political mindset who want to control thought, actions and language for their own benefit.

I'm also glad to see BAME dropped and agree with above posts that grouping people in the game of group identity politics, when it comes to race, is in itself racist - via the action itself of separating/grouping people for different treatment based up on their race.
(There is no other reason to group people if not to wish to treat them differently from other groups)

Couldn’t agree more! media driven claptrap from a small group of the misguided has at long last been recognised for what it is, divisive. Hope this is the start of the road back to reality.

[g4ry13]

"coloured person" = extinct term said by the older generation and considered to be racist
"person of colour" = acceptable?

Is the above still correct?

[mac96]

g4ry13 said:

"coloured person" = extinct term said by the older generation and considered to be racist
"person of colour" = acceptable?

Is the above still correct?

Just complicated. I think the background to 'coloured' varies by country- in the UK I remember it as being used by older people actively trying to find an inoffensive term, but that may not have been the case everywhere.

[Biggy Stardust]

I'm sure the politically correct can explain: if someone is black (or white, Indian, oriental, mixed, whatever) where is the problem in describing them as black (or white, etc)?

No need for anything fancy, describe people as they actually are.

[ChocolateFrog]

Evercross said:

Good. Hopefully LGBTQIXYZABCD..... will be next.

I doubt it though because the shouty pseudo-trans minority have hijacked that bandwagon for their own ends....

You've missed +?!&$.

Racist.

[Countdown]

Puggit said:

I can't keep up with what I can and cannot say, or should and should not say.

Have you ever said anything which has inadvertently offended somebody?

In my experience, as long as you don't set out to cause offence, very very few people will actually take offence.

[stinkyspanner]

Oh great so what are we supposed to call the Jonny foreigners now then?

[Piersman2]

mac96 said:

g4ry13 said:

"coloured person" = extinct term said by the older generation and considered to be racist
"person of colour" = acceptable?

Is the above still correct?

Just complicated. I think the background to 'coloured' varies by country- in the UK I remember it as being used by older people actively trying to find an inoffensive term, but that may not have been the case everywhere.

When I was a kid (1970's) 'coloured' was the accepted polite term to refer to black people, using the word 'black' was definitely seen as rascist.

[petop]

mac96 said:

g4ry13 said:

"coloured person" = extinct term said by the older generation and considered to be racist
"person of colour" = acceptable?

Is the above still correct?

Just complicated. I think the background to 'coloured' varies by country- in the UK I remember it as being used by older people actively trying to find an inoffensive term, but that may not have been the case everywhere.

I worked with a load of Americans in Afghanistan few years ago and was 1 of 2 Brits out of 10 US guys. Came back from lunch break, on my own in office and guy comes in asking for so-and-so who wasn't there so guy leaves. The others return to office and i say "John, there was guy here asking for you, didnt get his name, said he would be back later". So John asks "what he look like?"....."coloured guy, quite tall......." well I may have said the President deserves to die! I was told in no uncertain terms that you cannot refer to a black guy as coloured.

[bristolbaron]

Biggy Stardust said:

I'm sure the politically correct can explain: if someone is black (or white, Indian, oriental, mixed, whatever) where is the problem in describing them as black (or white, etc)?

No need for anything fancy, describe people as they actually are.

Nothing, and that caused the confusion. Black people individually being called BAME, when they’re not, they’re Black.

However to pick up on one of your other examples:

wikipedia said:

The term oriental is often used to describe objects from the Orient, however it can be considered an offensive term by some when used to refer to people of East Asian and South East Asian descent.