NW England, Commercial property - dodgy security firms
Discussion
We (my wife and I) are in the process of looking to purchase a small commercial unit with some yard space in the north west of England through our SIPP to start a new business. The SIPP will be leasing the property to our trading company (not currently trading, as due to the nature of the business we need the site and associated licences/permits before we can begin trading)
We live in Wigan but we've got quite a wide search radius of about 20-30 miles, simply because there's not a lot available that meets our needs and we've resigned to the fact that to get the ideal site we may need a bit of a commute. The option is always available to move closer to the site once the business is going. But a lot of the sites that look eligible are coming up around the Blackburn or Liverpool area.
Maybe I've been watching too much TV/films, but one thing that has been nagging in the back of my mind is essentially protection rackets or dodgy security firms. There's little up to date information after searching the web, but I would assume due to the nature of what we're talking about, not many people who are being exploited would shout about it on the web.
Two people that I know mentioned it in the sort of 'What about protection rackets!' or 'you need to watch out for that!' kind of way, but both of those people are people who have been known to exaggerate/stretch the truth a little and I would typically take what they say with a pinch of salt anyway.
So put simply, does anyone know if this still exists on a large scale or better still have any experience of it happening? Are certain areas more rife for it? One of the people mentioned above did seem to think that Liverpool is/was rife for it. If we set up business, are we likely to have a few big 'security' blokes turn up insisting that they run the local security and we may be liable to 'accidents' and 'vandalism' if we don't pay their exorbitant fees? I'm sure it still goes on to some degree, but not sure how widespread of a problem it is.
Thanks in advance.
We live in Wigan but we've got quite a wide search radius of about 20-30 miles, simply because there's not a lot available that meets our needs and we've resigned to the fact that to get the ideal site we may need a bit of a commute. The option is always available to move closer to the site once the business is going. But a lot of the sites that look eligible are coming up around the Blackburn or Liverpool area.
Maybe I've been watching too much TV/films, but one thing that has been nagging in the back of my mind is essentially protection rackets or dodgy security firms. There's little up to date information after searching the web, but I would assume due to the nature of what we're talking about, not many people who are being exploited would shout about it on the web.
Two people that I know mentioned it in the sort of 'What about protection rackets!' or 'you need to watch out for that!' kind of way, but both of those people are people who have been known to exaggerate/stretch the truth a little and I would typically take what they say with a pinch of salt anyway.
So put simply, does anyone know if this still exists on a large scale or better still have any experience of it happening? Are certain areas more rife for it? One of the people mentioned above did seem to think that Liverpool is/was rife for it. If we set up business, are we likely to have a few big 'security' blokes turn up insisting that they run the local security and we may be liable to 'accidents' and 'vandalism' if we don't pay their exorbitant fees? I'm sure it still goes on to some degree, but not sure how widespread of a problem it is.
Thanks in advance.
OliSmith175 said:
We (my wife and I) are in the process of looking to purchase a small commercial unit with some yard space in the north west of England through our SIPP to start a new business. The SIPP will be leasing the property to our trading company (not currently trading, as due to the nature of the business we need the site and associated licences/permits before we can begin trading)
We live in Wigan but we've got quite a wide search radius of about 20-30 miles, simply because there's not a lot available that meets our needs and we've resigned to the fact that to get the ideal site we may need a bit of a commute. The option is always available to move closer to the site once the business is going. But a lot of the sites that look eligible are coming up around the Blackburn or Liverpool area.
Maybe I've been watching too much TV/films, but one thing that has been nagging in the back of my mind is essentially protection rackets or dodgy security firms. There's little up to date information after searching the web, but I would assume due to the nature of what we're talking about, not many people who are being exploited would shout about it on the web.
Two people that I know mentioned it in the sort of 'What about protection rackets!' or 'you need to watch out for that!' kind of way, but both of those people are people who have been known to exaggerate/stretch the truth a little and I would typically take what they say with a pinch of salt anyway.
So put simply, does anyone know if this still exists on a large scale or better still have any experience of it happening? Are certain areas more rife for it? One of the people mentioned above did seem to think that Liverpool is/was rife for it. If we set up business, are we likely to have a few big 'security' blokes turn up insisting that they run the local security and we may be liable to 'accidents' and 'vandalism' if we don't pay their exorbitant fees? I'm sure it still goes on to some degree, but not sure how widespread of a problem it is.
Thanks in advance.
Is there nothing around the Swan Lane area of Wigan that fits your needs?We live in Wigan but we've got quite a wide search radius of about 20-30 miles, simply because there's not a lot available that meets our needs and we've resigned to the fact that to get the ideal site we may need a bit of a commute. The option is always available to move closer to the site once the business is going. But a lot of the sites that look eligible are coming up around the Blackburn or Liverpool area.
Maybe I've been watching too much TV/films, but one thing that has been nagging in the back of my mind is essentially protection rackets or dodgy security firms. There's little up to date information after searching the web, but I would assume due to the nature of what we're talking about, not many people who are being exploited would shout about it on the web.
Two people that I know mentioned it in the sort of 'What about protection rackets!' or 'you need to watch out for that!' kind of way, but both of those people are people who have been known to exaggerate/stretch the truth a little and I would typically take what they say with a pinch of salt anyway.
So put simply, does anyone know if this still exists on a large scale or better still have any experience of it happening? Are certain areas more rife for it? One of the people mentioned above did seem to think that Liverpool is/was rife for it. If we set up business, are we likely to have a few big 'security' blokes turn up insisting that they run the local security and we may be liable to 'accidents' and 'vandalism' if we don't pay their exorbitant fees? I'm sure it still goes on to some degree, but not sure how widespread of a problem it is.
Thanks in advance.
northwest monkey said:
Countdown said:
I'd stay away from anywhere east of Waterfoot though - dodgy AF 
Carrs Industrial estate on the A56 Haslingden bypass probably ideal if you DO decide to come to Rossendale......
Rough as toast in Haslingden!Carrs Industrial estate on the A56 Haslingden bypass probably ideal if you DO decide to come to Rossendale......
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from Bacup)If you buy a unit in Bacup, watch out for the Coconutters, they're Bacup's local firm!!
hepy said:
northwest monkey said:
Countdown said:
I'd stay away from anywhere east of Waterfoot though - dodgy AF
Carrs Industrial estate on the A56 Haslingden bypass probably ideal if you DO decide to come to Rossendale......
Rough as toast in Haslingden!Carrs Industrial estate on the A56 Haslingden bypass probably ideal if you DO decide to come to Rossendale......
(
from Bacup)If you buy a unit in Bacup, watch out for the Coconutters, they're Bacup's local firm!!
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