Watched Someone Die
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bad company

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21,919 posts

295 months

Saturday 11th December 2021
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What a day. Mrs BC and I arrived in Florida yesterday evening for Christmas.

Today we went for a walk from our hotel and chanced upon a youngish man of around 40 collapsed in the street. He was unconscious but breathing. We called 911 and administered CPR but he stopped breathing. The police & medics arrived after about 15 minutes but he just died. I can’t get his face & eyes out of my head. The medics & police said we did all we could but there’s still that nagging guilt that we could have done more.

Just makes me think we all have to live our lives to the full and not in fear, who knows how long we’ve got. He left home today unaware it would be his last.

I just can’t get him out of my mind.

jules_s

5,256 posts

262 months

Saturday 11th December 2021
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Sorry to hear that - never nice to see someone pass

As soon as we are born the clock starts clicking, life is finite

I spoke to my dad on the phone the day before he died (he was in hospital - no visits due to Covid) he was scared and crying. I'd give a lot to have been with him to help him through his last moments

Chubbyross

4,974 posts

114 months

Saturday 11th December 2021
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Sorry to hear that. The most important thing is that you were there with him. He didn’t die alone and you did all you could. Watching someone die will never leave you. I was there with my father when he died five years ago and it’s the most humbling experience I’ve ever had. Everything else after that doesn’t matter as much as simply being alive.

Talk to as many people as you can about what happened Bottling it up won’t help. And give your loved ones a massive hug and appreciate life for the amazing thing that it is.

miken2k8

362 posts

112 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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bad company said:
What a day. Mrs BC and I arrived in Florida yesterday evening for Christmas.

Today we went for a walk from our hotel and chanced upon a youngish man of around 40 collapsed in the street. He was unconscious but breathing. We called 911 and administered CPR but he stopped breathing. The police & medics arrived after about 15 minutes but he just died. I can’t get his face & eyes out of my head. The medics & police said we did all we could but there’s still that nagging guilt that we could have done more.

Just makes me think we all have to live our lives to the full and not in fear, who knows how long we’ve got. He left home today unaware it would be his last.

I just can’t get him out of my mind.
and you log onto piston heads while on holiday to tell us

buggalugs

9,279 posts

266 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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miken2k8 said:
and you log onto piston heads while on holiday to tell us
And you feel the need to post this comment for some reason

Richard-G

1,743 posts

204 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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miken2k8 said:
bad company said:
What a day. Mrs BC and I arrived in Florida yesterday evening for Christmas.

Today we went for a walk from our hotel and chanced upon a youngish man of around 40 collapsed in the street. He was unconscious but breathing. We called 911 and administered CPR but he stopped breathing. The police & medics arrived after about 15 minutes but he just died. I can’t get his face & eyes out of my head. The medics & police said we did all we could but there’s still that nagging guilt that we could have done more.

Just makes me think we all have to live our lives to the full and not in fear, who knows how long we’ve got. He left home today unaware it would be his last.

I just can’t get him out of my mind.
and you log onto piston heads while on holiday to tell us
Yes and I don't blame him! You shouldn't bottle things up and posting on here can produce advice and ways of coping.


bad company

Original Poster:

21,919 posts

295 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Richard-G said:
Yes and I don't blame him! You shouldn't bottle things up and posting on here can produce advice and ways of coping.
Thanks, that’s exactly how I feel. I’m sat in a bar now drinking beer but can’t get him out of my head.

Volvolover

2,036 posts

70 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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He didn’t die alone. That’s a big thing. You aren’t used to dealing with that as a normal thing so I’m sure you did all you could. Hard thing to just forget about but try and take something positive from your thoughts.


Pica-Pica

16,566 posts

113 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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OP. His family may eventually get in touch, and I am sure they will appreciate that you tried. He could have died alone, but he didn’t. This may sound harsh, but stop beating yourself up, you did as much as anyone could, and probably more than many would.

Edited by Pica-Pica on Sunday 12th December 00:34

Hammer67

6,442 posts

213 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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bad company said:
Richard-G said:
Yes and I don't blame him! You shouldn't bottle things up and posting on here can produce advice and ways of coping.
Thanks, that’s exactly how I feel. I’m sat in a bar now drinking beer but can’t get him out of my head.
Sorry to hear that BC. Thing is though you never will get him out of your head. I watched a referee die on the pitch during a Sunday League game I was playing in probably 25 years ago. The memory is as clear as if it happened yesterday.
Just have to accept that bad things happen and try and move on.

NDNDNDND

2,546 posts

212 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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My wife and I went through something similar a few months ago. We were advised by a policeman at the scene that these things can be surprisingly traumatic and to seek help if we felt we needed it. Fortunately my wife and I had each other to talk it through. We both said we thought about it a lot in the following weeks.

You should be proud of yourself for stopping and helping and giving the guy a chance - many people would just cross the road and walk away.

papa3

1,557 posts

216 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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miken2k8 said:
and you log onto piston heads while on holiday to tell us
What a prick. If this is the OP's route to some support then this is the place to tell people.

OP, the big point to focus on is that you did something about it. Plenty of people would stand back and watch, or worse film for Facebook. It takes balls to deliver critical first aid.

80% of Cardiac arrests outwith a hospital setting are fatal. The odds are stacked against you in most cases when CPR is required.

The act of delivering CPR is brutal and exhausting. The media presented image of 5 compressions resulting in the casualty sitting up and talking is so far removed from reality as to be irrelevant. This coupled with the adrenaline inevitable in the moment will result in some fairly vivid memories.

As mentioned above you gave given the family the knowledge that every effort was made and that someone was there. The fact that you tried will bring them some comfort.

The after effects of a traumatic experience are different for everyone. Some breeze through seemingly unaffected, others struggle to rationalise the events. Seek the support you need and if that's on here, nobody will mind. Watch the booze. No solutions in a beer bottle.

Time will make it easier to move beyond. At first it will be all consuming, you're unlikely to forget it, but you'll think of it less.

Well done. Bystander CPR and early defibrillation give people a chance of survival. More people need to be willing to do what you did.

Mave

8,217 posts

244 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Well done for getting involved and trying to help him. Many wouldn't. You have nothing to feel guilty for.

I remember on a first aid course years ago, the ex paramedic saying that there are times when if you don't do something they have a 0% chance of surviving; if you do something, they have a 10% chance of surviving. You did your best and improved their chances, you can't do more than that.

And you're doing the right thing in talking to people. Hopefully, with time, you'll come to terms with it.

Best wishes, and hope you manage to enjoy your time over Christmas.

Eyersey1234

3,081 posts

108 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Well done for trying OP. As others have said the fact he didn't die alone and you did what you could will bring some comfort to the family.

monthou

5,338 posts

79 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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As above, well done for trying. Nothing to regret there. Best wishes.

miken2k8

362 posts

112 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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papa3 said:
What a prick. If this is the OP's route to some support then this is the place to tell people.

OP, the big point to focus on is that you did something about it. Plenty of people would stand back and watch, or worse film for Facebook. It takes balls to deliver critical first aid.

80% of Cardiac arrests outwith a hospital setting are fatal. The odds are stacked against you in most cases when CPR is required.

The act of delivering CPR is brutal and exhausting. The media presented image of 5 compressions resulting in the casualty sitting up and talking is so far removed from reality as to be irrelevant. This coupled with the adrenaline inevitable in the moment will result in some fairly vivid memories.

As mentioned above you gave given the family the knowledge that every effort was made and that someone was there. The fact that you tried will bring them some comfort.

The after effects of a traumatic experience are different for everyone. Some breeze through seemingly unaffected, others struggle to rationalise the events. Seek the support you need and if that's on here, nobody will mind. Watch the booze. No solutions in a beer bottle.

Time will make it easier to move beyond. At first it will be all consuming, you're unlikely to forget it, but you'll think of it less.

Well done. Bystander CPR and early defibrillation give people a chance of survival. More people need to be willing to do what you did.
I know i had to give my mum cpr when i found her dead on the living room floor just over 3 years ago. that was hard. i was 26. I'd been asleep upstairs and heard her just 10 mins before getting ready to take the dog for a walk. He was walking around her with his lead attached. I still have him now. I'm well aware of the situation. So no need to call me a prick thankyou.

Edited by miken2k8 on Sunday 12th December 02:07

miken2k8

362 posts

112 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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miken2k8 said:
Also we donated her organs saved 4 separate lives not one of those people contacted us so sorry if i've become cynical.

bad company

Original Poster:

21,919 posts

295 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Thanks so much for the support. Funny how input from strangers can help, but it does. The thing is for whatever reason I do feel the need to talk about it but we’re away so it’s just Mrs BC and I. Think she feels the same.

Unsure whether to post the experience on Facebook where my friends obviously know me. I can’t even understand why I want to do that. Seeking reassurance maybe? Can’t understand myself right now.

Edited by bad company on Sunday 12th December 02:34

Hackney2

1,030 posts

122 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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buggalugs said:
And you feel the need to post this comment for some reason
What a toxic reply.

Hackney2

1,030 posts

122 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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bad company said:
Thanks so much for the support. Funny how input from strangers can help, but it does. The thing is for whatever reason I do feel the need to talk about it but we’re away so it’s just Mrs BC and I. Think she feels the same.

Unsure whether to post the experience on Facebook where my friends obviously know me. I can’t even understand why I want to do that. Seeking reassurance maybe? Can’t understand myself right now.

Edited by bad company on Sunday 12th December 02:34
Take care.It is really awful to see or come across something like that.Just puts life into perspective.