RAF shoots down a drone
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Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

290 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59615769

The first time an RAF jet has shot down or even at an enemy aircraft since WW2.

jfdi

1,332 posts

204 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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"It is the first time the British military has downed another enemy aircraft since the Falklands War nearly 40 years ago."

The Road Crew

4,272 posts

189 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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It's got to be worth the expense of running 9 squadrons of typhoons when you are using them as effectively as that!

Equus

16,980 posts

130 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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The Road Crew said:
It's got to be worth the expense of running 9 squadrons of typhoons when you are using them as effectively as that!
yes

Cost of ASRAAM missile to shoot down drone = £200,000, paid for by UK taxpayer.
Cost of Typhoon to carry it = £110,000,000, paid for by UK taxpayer.
Cost to train RAF pilot to push button = £5,700,000, paid for by UK taxpayer.

Cost of 'small hostile drone' = £39.95 with free delivery from Amazon

Oilchange

9,685 posts

289 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Cost of keeping the UK and its allies safe ... priceless.

Equus

16,980 posts

130 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Oilchange said:
Cost of keeping the UK and its allies safe ... priceless.
We don't have any 'allies'.

Cost of inserting tongue as far as possible up Murrican sphincter... way too much.

Lily the Pink

7,472 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Apparently, an ASRAAM missile "flies at supersonic speed - faster than the speed of sound". The fact that the BBC feels the need to explain what supersonic means tells you all you need to know about the organisation's opinion of their audience's education.

But of greater interest - has the US or any other airforce shot down drones; is it a frequent or rare occurrence ?

Mercdriver

3,000 posts

62 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Does the typhoon have machine guns?

Is it impractical or unsafe to shoot it down?

Cheaper but maybe dangerous for crew?

Oilchange

9,685 posts

289 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Equus said:
We don't have any 'allies'.

Cost of inserting tongue as far as possible up Murrican sphincter... way too much.
Yes we do.
ally1
/ˈalʌɪ/
noun
plural noun: allies
a state formally cooperating with another for a military or other purpose.

Maybe you'd be happier cutting the defence budget to zero and spending it all 'on the NHS' or some other mindless drivel.


mickyh7

2,347 posts

115 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Probably not a £40 thing from Amazon though was it?
Let's hope they stopped a lot of casualties.
People bomb Maternity Hospitals now ffs!
We don't know what it was up to. Or how heavily it was armed.
We, have only read an article on the news!

Edited by mickyh7 on Thursday 16th December 20:29

Equus

16,980 posts

130 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Oilchange said:
ally1
/?al??/
noun
plural noun: allies
a state formally cooperating with another for a military or other purpose.
My point exacty: they don't 'cooperate' with us... they tell us exactly what they want us to do while we fawn around their feet like a spaniel.

Oilchange

9,685 posts

289 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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I was thinking it might have simply been a convenient opportunity to prove the missile works on drones, not often they get a chance and there are no casualties.

Plus it sends a message

Equus

16,980 posts

130 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Oilchange said:
Plus it sends a message
yes Very true: it says : 'you can cost us £hundreds of thousands challenging our fancy technology at a cost to you of buttons'.

Same as IED's send the message : 'you can spend all the money you like on high-tech fighting vehicles and equipment, but we'll still blow your arms and legs off with a couple of barrels of fertiliser and some loose nuts and bolts'.

ecsrobin

18,636 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Mercdriver said:
Does the typhoon have machine guns?

Is it impractical or unsafe to shoot it down?

Cheaper but maybe dangerous for crew?
It does but probably more to keep the CofG. Shooting air to air with guns I’d imagine is last resort but shooting a drone with a missile would mean it was sizeable but you can shoot from range.

aeropilot

40,488 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Mercdriver said:
Does the typhoon have machine guns?
No.

Its does have a single 27mm Mauser cannon, but MOD were initially not going to pay for its support or ammo for them (same though as the Tornado cannon) or sanction training the pilots to use it, but I believe that numbskull penny pinching idea was later to be changed, although how much training or live fire of the cannon any pilots have done is another matter. Any they have done its likely to have been air-to-ground not air-to-air.


r1ch

2,954 posts

225 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Interesting. I’d imagine it’d be difficult to hit a drone with the gun.

Steve vRS

5,390 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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The news reports keep saying that it’s the first air to air combat since the Falklands War. Did the RAF or Fleet Air Arm not shoot anything down during the Gulf War or had all the Iraq jets fled to Iran before they had a chance?

Cold

16,624 posts

119 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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There was no drone. /throwback/ biggrin

The Road Crew

4,272 posts

189 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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USAF/USN got them first!

Simpo Two

92,610 posts

294 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Equus said:
Oilchange said:
ally1
/?al??/
noun
plural noun: allies
a state formally cooperating with another for a military or other purpose.
My point exacty: they don't 'cooperate' with us... they tell us exactly what they want us to do while we fawn around their feet like a spaniel.
Which is an excellent argument for having powerful armed forces. But we've frittered away cash on hopeless causes instead.

Anyway, if the st hits the fan I'd rather live in America than Russia. How about you?