Seller had incorrect details on V5C
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Hi all,
Just looking for some advice please. I recently purchased a land rover discovery 2017 plate via private sale. Car described as coming with full manufactures service history and verbally told that the warranty had been extended for two years. Checked service history provided, all seemed legitimate, two services at main dealer, with second one at 42k, with car purchased with 47k. VIN and engine number checked against service records and V5C, again all good.
Anyway tried chasing up the extended warranty with the seller after purchased, after a couple of texts from them saying it was transferable via dealer they went quiet. Checked with dealer and no warranty exists on the car, but they did let slip that engine had been changed just prior to me purchasing it this came as a shock as seller didn't mention it and paperwork didn't show a different engine number. Appears thatengine was changed but seller didn't tell DVLA or me what rights do I have in pursuing this.
Many thanks in advance
Just looking for some advice please. I recently purchased a land rover discovery 2017 plate via private sale. Car described as coming with full manufactures service history and verbally told that the warranty had been extended for two years. Checked service history provided, all seemed legitimate, two services at main dealer, with second one at 42k, with car purchased with 47k. VIN and engine number checked against service records and V5C, again all good.
Anyway tried chasing up the extended warranty with the seller after purchased, after a couple of texts from them saying it was transferable via dealer they went quiet. Checked with dealer and no warranty exists on the car, but they did let slip that engine had been changed just prior to me purchasing it this came as a shock as seller didn't mention it and paperwork didn't show a different engine number. Appears thatengine was changed but seller didn't tell DVLA or me what rights do I have in pursuing this.
Many thanks in advance
You don’t have to tell a buyer that the engine has been changed unless the buyer says “ have you changed the engine”. Did you try and check the chassis and engine number from the v5 yourself when you viewed the car ? With a private sale it really is a case of buyer beware I’m afraid. Pursuing it to what level ? You want your money back ? With private I don’t think you have much comeback at all. Verbally means nothing really.
Edited by Mr lestat on Sunday 19th December 11:49
Hi, unfortunately couldn't view the engine number physically as its not visible without removing covers etc. That's why I checked to make sure the engine number matched the information on V5C and service records. Is it not a requirement to update the DVLA with the correct e give number.
Is the physical engine number on the car actually different to the V5? Some manufacturers transfer the engine number to the new engine when they replace them under warranty.
I assume this is a V6 diesel? If you’ve done any amount of due diligence on common faults you’ll know these are prone to somewhat random acts of crankshaft snapping once they get a few miles on them. On a JLR product with a TDV6 I’d see a manufacturer replacement engine as a bonus really as you should get some trouble free mileage out of it.
I assume this is a V6 diesel? If you’ve done any amount of due diligence on common faults you’ll know these are prone to somewhat random acts of crankshaft snapping once they get a few miles on them. On a JLR product with a TDV6 I’d see a manufacturer replacement engine as a bonus really as you should get some trouble free mileage out of it.
Yodaegghoover1 said:
Hi, unfortunately couldn't view the engine number physically as its not visible without removing covers etc. That's why I checked to make sure the engine number matched the information on V5C and service records. Is it not a requirement to update the DVLA with the correct e give number.
You are supposed to tell the DVLA but I don’t think it’s rigorously pursued if you don’t. As a bonus already said hopefully it means trouble free motoring Hi, unfortunately I cannot see the physical number on the block. Managed to get the new engine number from JLR who installed it, but they are reluctant to provide me with any other info. Currently trying to get this squared away with DVLA. Seller had private plate taken off vehicle the week prior to selling so would have been aware that it is a requirement to update engine number with DVLA.
It doesnt look like a good idea to purchase either the 2 or 3 litre discovery at the moment they both have issues.
Funny, I've already got myself a ticket for the defender, was going to get one for the discovwry they have as well but thought better of it.
Thank you for the replies, they are appreciated.
It doesnt look like a good idea to purchase either the 2 or 3 litre discovery at the moment they both have issues.
Funny, I've already got myself a ticket for the defender, was going to get one for the discovwry they have as well but thought better of it.
Thank you for the replies, they are appreciated.
Yodaegghoover1 said:
With regards the warranty, checked with land rover warranties and they cannot find any records of it being extended, they checked against Reg and VIN. Also checked with dealer whete work was undertaken, they have not confirmed the warranty either.
The seller lied to you then.I'd be more annoyed at that than the engine number not being updated.
Hate to say this but unless you see it in writing then you have to assume it hasn't or can't be done, case in point the warranty if there's no paperwork saying there's a warranty then there's not one & it's something you could've checked on there & then.
On the plus side the engine being replaced is a bonus & should come with at least a years warranty from JLR.
On the plus side the engine being replaced is a bonus & should come with at least a years warranty from JLR.
New engine could be seen as a good thing, if I had the details on why it had been changed. Unfortunately, from experience the engine change depreciates the cars value. The DVLA website says that it is the sellers responsibility to provide buyers with correct information which the seller has not done. If they had updated the dvla with the correct information I would have seen this, asked questions and then walked away. As it stands I'm in a position whereby I have been driving around in a car whereby the details do not match those on my V5C.
Yodaegghoover1 said:
New engine could be seen as a good thing, if I had the details on why it had been changed. Unfortunately, from experience the engine change depreciates the cars value. The DVLA website says that it is the sellers responsibility to provide buyers with correct information which the seller has not done. If they had updated the dvla with the correct information I would have seen this, asked questions and then walked away. As it stands I'm in a position whereby I have been driving around in a car whereby the details do not match those on my V5C.
Not in the case of a JLR 3.0d it's actually seen as a bonus, they replaced the whole engine can you imagine the cost before labour.You have the new engine details so once you've told the DVLA your documents will match the car, no stress as I see it.
Stop winging about the engine change. This is only good news. Your engine is newer and has less miles on it than you thought and it was done by a LR approved workshop. If you want the engine number reflected on the V5 simply tell the DVLA and they will update their records and send you a new V5.
The warranty issue needs resolved though. Get back in touch with the seller and see what he says.
The warranty issue needs resolved though. Get back in touch with the seller and see what he says.
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