Drug driver taunts dead man’s family in court.

[AL5026]

This story makes me so incredibly angry. I fully accept that sentencing guidelines dictate length of sentence but he has 55 previous convictions for 143 offences. It’s so utterly disrespectful to taunt the family like he did and I’m trying to imagine if it was my family member that he had killed. I honestly think I’d be waiting for him to get out of prison to earn myself a restorative spell inside. I know that in itself is wrong but I don’t know how else I’d deal with it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-h...

[nordboy]

Agree, I'm not sure if it's within the guidelines, but if I was the judge, he'd be straight back into the box and found in contempt of court. Maybe then, add a nice chunky amount of time onto his current sentence.

Courts are a very poor deterrent to committing crime these days!!

[greygoose]

There are a lot of scumbags out there, his history of convictions suggest that he won’t be reformed whilst inside and will no doubt commit many more crimes in the future. Terrible for the victim’s family to be treated like that.

[Magnum 475]

greygoose said:

There are a lot of scumbags out there, his history of convictions suggest that he won’t be reformed whilst inside and will no doubt commit many more crimes in the future. Terrible for the victim’s family to be treated like that.

Maybe it's time we implemented a 'three strikes' type of system in this country. After you've served a certain number of jail terms, then the next time that you're found guilty = Life with no parole? It might not put the scrotes off crime, but it would take them off the streets.

[vonhosen]

Magnum 475 said:

It might not put the scrotes off crime, but it would take them off the streets.

Crime is a Hydra, society a breeding ground.

[greygoose]

Magnum 475 said:

greygoose said:

There are a lot of scumbags out there, his history of convictions suggest that he won’t be reformed whilst inside and will no doubt commit many more crimes in the future. Terrible for the victim’s family to be treated like that.

Maybe it's time we implemented a 'three strikes' type of system in this country. After you've served a certain number of jail terms, then the next time that you're found guilty = Life with no parole? It might not put the scrotes off crime, but it would take them off the streets.

Trying to manage prisons full of people serving life without parole would be difficult unless they were supermax style solitary confinement facilities with little staff/inmate interaction. It would never happen in the UK, though people like this criminal do deserve it.

[Escort3500]

Unfortunately he’s probably right that, despite the six years and nine months sentence, he’ll be out in three for “good behaviour”.

I’m very much with AL5026 on this one.

[agtlaw]

Escort3500 said:

Unfortunately he’s probably right that, despite the six years and nine months sentence, he’ll be out in three for “good behaviour”.
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There’s the “good behaviour” myth again.

[NorthernSky]

vonhosen said:

Magnum 475 said:

It might not put the scrotes off crime, but it would take them off the streets.

Crime is a Hydra, society a breeding ground.

That is a beautiful poetic comment.

[Escort3500]

agtlaw said:

Escort3500 said:

Unfortunately he’s probably right that, despite the six years and nine months sentence, he’ll be out in three for “good behaviour”.
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There’s the “good behaviour” myth again.

Can you explain please?

[vonhosen]

Escort3500 said:

agtlaw said:

Escort3500 said:

Unfortunately he’s probably right that, despite the six years and nine months sentence, he’ll be out in three for “good behaviour”.
.

There’s the “good behaviour” myth again.

Can you explain please?

Because release on licence half way through is generally automatic (for all but most serious offences), it's not a discount for good behaviour.

[PorkInsider]

Escort3500 said:

agtlaw said:

Escort3500 said:

Unfortunately he’s probably right that, despite the six years and nine months sentence, he’ll be out in three for “good behaviour”.
.

There’s the “good behaviour” myth again.

Can you explain please?

https://www.gov.uk/types-of-prison-sentence/determ...

Edited by PorkInsider on Wednesday 22 December 10:51

[rigga]

9 year driving ban

That'll stop him.


Pathetic.

[DFLR]

vonhosen said:

Because release on licence half way through is generally automatic (for all but most serious offences), it's not a discount for good behaviour.

In this case, when this comes around, his comments in court should be taken into consideration.

[vonhosen]

DFLR said:

vonhosen said:

Because release on licence half way through is generally automatic (for all but most serious offences), it's not a discount for good behaviour.

In this case, when this comes around, his comments in court should be taken into consideration.

How if release eligibility is automatic?

[DFLR]

vonhosen said:

DFLR said:

vonhosen said:

Because release on licence half way through is generally automatic (for all but most serious offences), it's not a discount for good behaviour.

In this case, when this comes around, his comments in court should be taken into consideration.

How if release eligibility is automatic?

You said generally automatic, suggesting there are exceptions.

[vonhosen]

DFLR said:

vonhosen said:

DFLR said:

vonhosen said:

Because release on licence half way through is generally automatic (for all but most serious offences), it's not a discount for good behaviour.

In this case, when this comes around, his comments in court should be taken into consideration.

How if release eligibility is automatic?

You said generally automatic, suggesting there are exceptions.

Prisoners serving a determinate sentence serve half of their sentence in custody, are released at the halfway point and remain on licence for the other half of the sentence. For certain serious offences automatic release at halfway point is not automatic (extended sentences).

For those serving an indeterminate prison sentence, the court set a minimum term of imprisonment before the offender can become eligible to be considered for parole.

He has been given a determinate sentence, for a non serious offence.

Edited by vonhosen on Wednesday 22 December 11:19

[DFLR]

vonhosen said:

DFLR said:

vonhosen said:

DFLR said:

vonhosen said:

Because release on licence half way through is generally automatic (for all but most serious offences), it's not a discount for good behaviour.

In this case, when this comes around, his comments in court should be taken into consideration.

How if release eligibility is automatic?

You said generally automatic, suggesting there are exceptions.

Prisoners serving a determinate sentence serve half of their sentence in custody, are released at the halfway point and remain on licence for the other half of the sentence.

For those serving an indeterminate prison sentence, the court set a minimum term of imprisonment before the offender can become eligible to be considered for parole.

He has been given a determinate sentence.

So you are wrong saying it was generally automatic then.

Thank you for the clarification.

[anonymous-user]

DFLR said:

vonhosen said:

DFLR said:

vonhosen said:

DFLR said:

vonhosen said:

Because release on licence half way through is generally automatic (for all but most serious offences), it's not a discount for good behaviour.

In this case, when this comes around, his comments in court should be taken into consideration.

How if release eligibility is automatic?

You said generally automatic, suggesting there are exceptions.

Prisoners serving a determinate sentence serve half of their sentence in custody, are released at the halfway point and remain on licence for the other half of the sentence.

For those serving an indeterminate prison sentence, the court set a minimum term of imprisonment before the offender can become eligible to be considered for parole.

He has been given a determinate sentence.

So you are wrong saying it was generally automatic then.

Thank you for the clarification.

No he's completely right.

Generally.In most cases; Usually.

There have been about 8000 indeterminate prison sentences given out in total. In 2019 alone there were 76,000 determinate sentences given out. Generally seems the correct term.

Seems odd to get snippy with someone for sharing their knowledge with you.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 22 December 12:39

[Miserablegit]

vonhosen said:

He has been given a determinate sentence, for a non serious offence.

Edited by vonhosen on Wednesday 22 December 11:19

Some might be forgiven for thinking killing another when driving when off one’s tits on drugs, with a side garnish of no licence or insurance is a serious offence…