Roof paint problems... wrap, lacquer, or full paint?
Roof paint problems... wrap, lacquer, or full paint?
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gmaz

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5,046 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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My daughter got a Mini One for cheap, one of the reasons being the knackered paint on the roof. What's the easiest & cheapest way to make it presentable?

1. Wrap with satin black vinyl - how much would this be for a roof considering roof bars & aerial may need removing?
2. Rub down to remove the lacquer and re-lacquer, or would the red paint be damaged under it?
3. Proper send back to primer, re-prime, paint and lacquer?




Rest of car for reference


BOR

5,055 posts

275 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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A good option here would be one of the various flag wraps offered by MINI dealers (and others probably).

Some of the flag options are semi-transparent, which you don't want.

I imagine you could fit it without removing the bars, if you carefully cut around them.

SimonTheSailor

12,811 posts

248 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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Don't think you can ever sort out the laquer by itself, it's an all or nothing type of job I believe.

Vinyl sounds ideal.

Krikkit

27,727 posts

201 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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Definitely get a vinyl wrap on it imho, that or you'l need a proper re-paint unless you want it to look rough.

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,742 posts

85 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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But does the vinyl not have to have a pretty good and flat base to stick on to? Would it show the lacquer defects up if you look closely at it?

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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Matt_E_Mulsion said:
Would it show the lacquer defects up if you look closely at it?
Really easy solution to that one....

I personally would ignore it; spending money on a cheap car is a folly particularly if it's just on cosmetics, but if forced I'd certainly go no further than paying some local herberts from "Daz's Wrapz" or the like to put a black wrap on the roof - you'll need to take the other hardware off if you're going to burn a few hundred quid painting it too.

It's a shed though, they are best used and enjoyed and any spend put towards the next shed.

As an aside I once ran a Rover 114i (Metro) with incredibly flaky lacquer all over, and would regularly come back to it to find someone standing there picking at the lacquer because it was almost irresistible not to hehe

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 28th December 11:34

paintman

7,842 posts

210 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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gmaz said:
My daughter got a Mini One for cheap, one of the reasons being the knackered paint on the roof. What's the easiest & cheapest way to make it presentable?

1. Wrap with satin black vinyl - how much would this be for a roof considering roof bars & aerial may need removing?
2. Rub down to remove the lacquer and re-lacquer, or would the red paint be damaged under it?
3. Proper send back to primer, re-prime, paint and lacquer?
You have an adhesion problem between the colour coat & the clearcoat. What's left will follow the rest.
Taking your options in order my advice would be:

1. Wrap needs to be applied to a good sound surface. You COULD do as is as a DIY over what's there but I doubt a professional wrapper would touch it.
2. Don't bother.
3. Sand back to sound surface - bare metal if necessary - and refinish.

wiliferus

4,195 posts

218 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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I would do a combo. I wouldn’t vinyl wrap as it is as the finish may well look lumpy.

I’d sand it back to bare metal, then wrap it. The advantage of the Mini brand is that a lot of them are quirky, so a wrapped roof won’t make it stand out. Other makes and models would look terrible, you’ll get away with on a Mini.

The spinner of plates

18,080 posts

220 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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stickleback123 said:
Really easy solution to that one....

I personally would ignore it; spending money on a cheap car is a folly particularly if it's just on cosmetics, but if forced I'd certainly go no further than paying some local herberts from "Daz's Wrapz" or the like to put a black wrap on the roof - you'll need to take the other hardware off if you're going to burn a few hundred quid painting it too.

It's a shed though, they are best used and enjoyed and any spend put towards the next shed.

As an aside I once ran a Rover 114i (Metro) with incredibly flaky lacquer all over, and would regularly come back to it to find someone standing there picking at the lacquer because it was almost irresistible not to hehe

Edited by stickleback123 on Tuesday 28th December 11:34
Agreed.

If you can’t DIY it, the costs to sort professionally normally exceed the difference of buying a better condition car in the first place.

Demelitia

689 posts

76 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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Satin vinyl will hide the lacquer problems to some degree, and it shouldn’t be too hard to sand/flick off the failed edges to consolidate them first but any severe edges will still show through.

Thicker, textured vinyl would be a better option if you were focusing on hiding the problem.

An even better solution would be to find a local back street paint shop and ask for a quote on them spraying it in black the next time they have black paint in the gun for another job.

Belle427

11,079 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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I would say about £300 to paint the roof, is that not a more sensible option if the rest of the car is ok?