Mercedes has the new contender up and running!
Mercedes has the new contender up and running!
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Dunit

Original Poster:

645 posts

221 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Nice bit of good cheer for Lewis!

thiscocks

3,329 posts

211 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Give us a clue

eliot

11,899 posts

270 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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let me get the crystal ball out for a buff

TheDeuce

28,771 posts

82 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Today was fire up day!?

If so, it's a lovely tradition but kind of pointless - other than an excuse for those in the factory to down tools and go get a beer..

waynecyclist

12,123 posts

130 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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They had it up and running 6 days ago.

https://youtu.be/YI4PqFhvvaE

TheDeuce

28,771 posts

82 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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waynecyclist said:
They had it up and running 6 days ago.

https://youtu.be/YI4PqFhvvaE
Thanks.

I doubt Lewis feels anything special about the fact the power unit can be successfully fired up though... scratchchin

Tbh I doubt he'll think anything about any of it until he's on day two of pre season at the earliest.

cgt2

7,256 posts

204 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Up and running, team looking forward, yes, but the Abu Dhabi thread still has another 18 months to run yet!

thegreenhell

19,862 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Isn't it exactly the same engine they've been running this year, so not really much of an achievement to get it running.

kambites

69,724 posts

237 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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thegreenhell said:
Isn't it exactly the same engine they've been running this year, so not really much of an achievement to get it running.
Yes, I'm not sure it's much of a milestone really this year!

TheDeuce

28,771 posts

82 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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It's not a milestone at all - just an opportunity for bit of press coverage.

On a more positive note, I am seriously looking forwards to pre season testing to see how each time has interpreted the new regs. Such a shame the first sessions are private, but I understand why.

waynecyclist

12,123 posts

130 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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thegreenhell said:
Isn't it exactly the same engine they've been running this year, so not really much of an achievement to get it running.
No chance it is the same engine, it will be all new as is the Red bull / Honda engine.

Sandpit Steve

12,998 posts

90 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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It’s pretty much the same engine, but still a milestone to have everything integrated into the brand new chassis.

Better, and much funnier, is the debrief bloopers reel they just released https://youtube.com/watch?v=MvegX7XajV8
Who would have thought, that cornering engineers after they just worked all weekend and flew back from wherever to the factory, might not always go according to plan…?

fttm

4,079 posts

151 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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waynecyclist said:
thegreenhell said:
Isn't it exactly the same engine they've been running this year, so not really much of an achievement to get it running.
No chance it is the same engine, it will be all new as is the Red bull / Honda engine.
Fairly sure he meant spec wise , which it is .

TheDeuce

28,771 posts

82 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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fttm said:
waynecyclist said:
thegreenhell said:
Isn't it exactly the same engine they've been running this year, so not really much of an achievement to get it running.
No chance it is the same engine, it will be all new as is the Red bull / Honda engine.
Fairly sure he meant spec wise , which it is .
Correct. And it's been on the dyno, they already know what it will do. The fact it fits in the car was already known when they designed the car...

As I said earlier, the only relevance of this is it's a milestone moment where everyone involved can go off for a well deserved beer! I don't think it will mean anything much to Lewis - nothing will until he drives the car and starts to get a feel as to how it compares to the other teams efforts.

Sandpit Steve

12,998 posts

90 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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TheDeuce said:
Correct. And it's been on the dyno, they already know what it will do. The fact it fits in the car was already known when they designed the car...

As I said earlier, the only relevance of this is it's a milestone moment where everyone involved can go off for a well deserved beer! I don't think it will mean anything much to Lewis - nothing will until he drives the car and starts to get a feel as to how it compares to the other teams efforts.
Ha, true. It was probably in the schedule for 26th or 27th - with several dozen people knowing that meant working all the way up to that date. So they put in the overtime for a couple of weeks, fired it on 23rd, and went to see their families for Christmas!

ajprice

30,835 posts

212 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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Mercedes image of a 2022 car. It probably isn't the actual car's design, but the nose and wing are different to the F1 demo car

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/147726067...

Brightened image


F1 demo car

LM240

5,161 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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ajprice said:
Mercedes image of a 2022 car. It probably isn't the actual car's design, but the nose and wing are different to the F1 demo car

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/147726067...

Brightened image


F1 demo car
Elaborate fake? Playing with the other teams heads?

I thought it seemed odd coming from the official Twitter account as it quite early to release an image if that is the real car.

Sandpit Steve

12,998 posts

90 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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LM240 said:
Elaborate fake? Playing with the other teams heads?

I thought it seemed odd coming from the official Twitter account as it quite early to release an image if that is the real car.
It would be a reasonably good bet, that what we see at the first testing day looks nothing like that car!

It’ll be either a pure Photoshop job, based on images of the F1 model but with some features of the old W12, or it’ll be an old mock-up chassis they’ve been using as part of the development process using existing parts, and completely superseded.

Even a poor-quality image would tell an awful lot to their competitors, and it’s somewhat unlikely that any team is going to start doing their development in public! The new chassis and bigger wheels call for totally new suspension philosophy, for one example, so there’s no way they’re going to reveal so much.

A good effort at misdirection perhaps, or perhaps I’m completely wrong and it’s a double-bluff, they turn up in Barcelona with that car!

HardtopManual

2,726 posts

182 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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That looks exactly like the F1 concept car, just from a slightly different angle. It's definitely not Merc's 2022 contender.

kambites

69,724 posts

237 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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HardtopManual said:
That looks exactly like the F1 concept car, just from a slightly different angle. It's definitely not Merc's 2022 contender.
It really doesn't! To start with the FIA mockup has pull-rod front suspension, the Merc render is push-rod.

The track rods are in a different place too.

Edited by kambites on Monday 3rd January 09:56