Uninsured drivers
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fido

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18,880 posts

284 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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Someone down my road has an untaxed vehicle and it isn't insured either. The son in that household takes the car out at night. I only bothered to check because he always looks like he's about the commit a robbery - lengthy routine looking around outside before driving off and hides in his smartphone whenever anyone is walking past! Two questions. 1. why isn't this picked up on ANPR - i am in London and you would think every main road is checked 2. if I report it to the DVLA will it just go into their virtual recycling?

Edited by fido on Friday 31st December 23:16

Sebring440

3,202 posts

125 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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fido said:
Someone down my road has an untaxed vehicle and it isn't insured (on ASDMID) either. The son in that household takes the car out at night. I only bothered to check it online because he always looks like he's about the commit a robbery - lengthy routine looking around outside before driving off and hides in his smartphone whenever anyone is walking past! Two questions. 1. why isn't this picked up on ANPR - i am in London and you would think every main road is checked 2. if I report it to the DVLA will it just go into their virtual recycling?
Why are you bothered?


Trevor555

5,412 posts

113 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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A few examples of why some drivers are likely to leave the scenes of accidents/incidents.

Drink

Drugs

Uninsured

Cloned plates

55palfers

6,366 posts

193 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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Sebring440 said:
Why are you bothered?
Perhaps it's in case the uninsured scrote kills or seriously injures someone with the car.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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fido said:
Someone down my road has an untaxed vehicle and it isn't insured (on ASDMID) either. The son in that household takes the car out at night. I only bothered to check it online because he always looks like he's about the commit a robbery - lengthy routine looking around outside before driving off and hides in his smartphone whenever anyone is walking past! Two questions. 1. why isn't this picked up on ANPR - i am in London and you would think every main road is checked 2. if I report it to the DVLA will it just go into their virtual recycling?
Report it online to the police. Don't tie up 101. Don't say you've checked Askmid, just give the VRM and tell them it's used regularly. Don't be surprised if the paltry number of plod assigned to your neighbourhood have bigger fish to fry.

LosingGrip

8,845 posts

188 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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fido said:
Someone down my road has an untaxed vehicle and it isn't insured (on ASDMID) either. The son in that household takes the car out at night. I only bothered to check it online because he always looks like he's about the commit a robbery - lengthy routine looking around outside before driving off and hides in his smartphone whenever anyone is walking past! Two questions. 1. why isn't this picked up on ANPR - i am in London and you would think every main road is checked 2. if I report it to the DVLA will it just go into their virtual recycling?
Can report it via the website, easier than calling 101. Time dates etc help. Although just because it’s not on the MID doesn’t mean it isn’t insured.

Although hopefully you didn’t breach data protection when clicking the box to say it was your vehicle you are checking wink.

98elise

32,539 posts

190 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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Sebring440 said:
fido said:
Someone down my road has an untaxed vehicle and it isn't insured (on ASDMID) either. The son in that household takes the car out at night. I only bothered to check it online because he always looks like he's about the commit a robbery - lengthy routine looking around outside before driving off and hides in his smartphone whenever anyone is walking past! Two questions. 1. why isn't this picked up on ANPR - i am in London and you would think every main road is checked 2. if I report it to the DVLA will it just go into their virtual recycling?
Why are you bothered?
Is it wrong to be bothered about uninsured drivers?



PH User

22,154 posts

137 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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Sebring440 said:
Why are you bothered?
Uninsured drivers cost us all who do bother to insure their cars, so that's probably why.

paddy1970

1,466 posts

138 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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Sebring440 said:
Why are you bothered?
Insurance is so...2021

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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LosingGrip said:
Can report it via the website, easier than calling 101. Time dates etc help. Although just because it’s not on the MID doesn’t mean it isn’t insured.

Although hopefully you didn’t breach data protection when clicking the box to say it was your vehicle you are checking wink.
Doesn't have to be your vehicle that you are checking

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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fido said:
1. why isn't this picked up on ANPR - i am in London and you would think every main road is checked
You don't have ANPR on every street corner, I think you are confusing it with CCTV

oceanview

1,631 posts

160 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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martinbiz said:
fido said:
1. why isn't this picked up on ANPR - i am in London and you would think every main road is checked
You don't have ANPR on every street corner, I think you are confusing it with CCTV
The ANPR cameras you have on the main routes leading in and out of towns, are i am fairly sure, only checked by police if they have a particular interest in that vehicle- wanted person known to use/drugs-that sort of thing, and so they tap in plate and its flagged up if passes.

They certainly don't (not in my town, anyway) act on any untaxed/mot cars passing through and i presume they don't with insurance, either- certainly not routinely.

London ANPR probably more for congestion/ULEZ and traffic infringements.

Esceptico

8,897 posts

138 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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I was watching one of those traffic cop programs on TV. Guy gets stopped for not wearing a seat belt. No licence, no MOT and no insurance. From memory he got an extended ban plus a £150 fine (a fraction of the cost of insurance even if he had a license). I think they confiscated the car but as an MOT failure was probably worth next to nothing. I bet he drove to the court in his next car!

Oceanrower

1,355 posts

141 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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martinbiz said:
LosingGrip said:
Can report it via the website, easier than calling 101. Time dates etc help. Although just because it’s not on the MID doesn’t mean it isn’t insured.

Although hopefully you didn’t breach data protection when clicking the box to say it was your vehicle you are checking wink.
Doesn't have to be your vehicle that you are checking
Which of these exemptions do you think it is then?

“I am entitled to the insurance information about the vehicle detailed above for one or more of the following reasons: It is either registered/ owned/ insured by me or my employer; I am permitted to drive it; I am an Insurance Broker or agent and acting on behalf of my client.

I understand it is an offence to wrongfully obtain information of this nature without any of the above reasonable causes. If I fail to provide true reasons for acquiring this information I may be committing an offence of unlawfully obtaining data contrary to section 170 of the Data Protection Act 2018. I declare that the information provided will not be used for any purposes unrelated to this enquiry.“

Edited by Oceanrower on Friday 31st December 20:15

LosingGrip

8,845 posts

188 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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oceanview said:
The ANPR cameras you have on the main routes leading in and out of towns, are i am fairly sure, only checked by police if they have a particular interest in that vehicle- wanted person known to use/drugs-that sort of thing, and so they tap in plate and its flagged up if passes.

They certainly don't (not in my town, anyway) act on any untaxed/mot cars passing through and i presume they don't with insurance, either- certainly not routinely.

London ANPR probably more for congestion/ULEZ and traffic infringements.
Depends on who is free as well. I rarely get the chance to sit at the ANPR cameras and wait.

Saleen836

12,490 posts

238 months

Friday 31st December 2021
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Sebring440 said:
fido said:
Someone down my road has an untaxed vehicle and it isn't insured (on ASDMID) either. The son in that household takes the car out at night. I only bothered to check it online because he always looks like he's about the commit a robbery - lengthy routine looking around outside before driving off and hides in his smartphone whenever anyone is walking past! Two questions. 1. why isn't this picked up on ANPR - i am in London and you would think every main road is checked 2. if I report it to the DVLA will it just go into their virtual recycling?
Why are you bothered?
Come back and tell us how you feel about uninsured drivers if you are unlucky enough to be involved in an accident with one

Sebring440

3,202 posts

125 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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Saleen836 said:
Come back and tell us how you feel about uninsured drivers if you are unlucky enough to be involved in an accident with one
Oh, I have been. But luckily I was insured. That's what I pay insurance for.

But I don't go out cruising local housing estates, noting registration numbers and then spending precious time on the internet to find out if they're insured or not.

Is that all right with you?



PH User

22,154 posts

137 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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Sebring440 said:
Saleen836 said:
Come back and tell us how you feel about uninsured drivers if you are unlucky enough to be involved in an accident with one
Oh, I have been. But luckily I was insured. That's what I pay insurance for.
And you pay more because of uninsured cars.

mattyprice4004

1,342 posts

203 months

Saturday 1st January 2022
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Sebring440 said:
Oh, I have been. But luckily I was insured. That's what I pay insurance for.

But I don't go out cruising local housing estates, noting registration numbers and then spending precious time on the internet to find out if they're insured or not.

Is that all right with you?
Good for you, but just because you don’t care doesn’t mean others share the same mindset.