Your 2021 performance
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That is indeed impressive. I’m up 10.1%, which I’m also very happy with as I am somewhat bearish and so trimmed some of my more aggressive positions during the year and am about 40% cash or index linked gilts (or a few old index linked national savings certificates - how I wish they still did those). Best performing stock is tritax big box reit, up about 48%. Worst was syncona, down about 19%. One good decision I made last year was selling my vanguard 60/40 fund and buying various ITs instead. The vanguard fund made 10%, the IT basket closer to 20. I do think the traditional 60/40 portfolio is dead. Next year may be tricky I think.
williaa68 said:
That is indeed impressive. I’m up 10.1%, which I’m also very happy with as I am somewhat bearish and so trimmed some of my more aggressive positions during the year and am about 40% cash or index linked gilts (or a few old index linked national savings certificates - how I wish they still did those). Best performing stock is tritax big box reit, up about 48%. Worst was syncona, down about 19%. One good decision I made last year was selling my vanguard 60/40 fund and buying various ITs instead. The vanguard fund made 10%, the IT basket closer to 20. I do think the traditional 60/40 portfolio is dead. Next year may be tricky I think.
Excuse my ignorance, what’s ITs? Investment Trusts? I dabble with vanguard funds just now but looking to take a bit more risk. Simpo Two said:
Blimey, how did you do that?
Don't ask me, ask the money printers in Westminster and around the world. Asset prices on a meteoric rise in value. House - Natwest valuation against HPI. It's meaningless of course until I sell. But as an asset, it has theoretically appreciated 17% in 2 years. Average house price in the UK is now 250k.
Cars - second hand valuations against liabilities means falsely appreciating assets as well.
Watches - Up 15% against purchase price.
Swapping cash for assets in an appreciating and inflating market was the way forward over the last 2 years for sure.
Pension - compared to the low in March 2020 it's increased in value by 68%. Even against the January of 2020 it's up 35%. So 17.5% increase per year.
I certainly don't feel any richer. Monthly take home hasn't increased, in fact over 2 years it's probably worth 15% less.
Edited by RichTT on Saturday 1st January 06:19
Resto157 said:
Another one of the smaller portfolios, could someone
please help me out with a return percentage. Started the year with £23350, added £250 a month. Ended the year on £31,953 what formula is used to calculator? The monthly contribution is throwing me.
If you have the monthly balances also it’s quite simple. Google Time Weighted Rate of Return. If not, you can figure out the IRR that would discount the end balance and monthly contributions back the the start balance. That’s latter approach is for XL wizards unless the fact that your contributions are the same each month means that there’s a simple method I don’t know about.please help me out with a return percentage. Started the year with £23350, added £250 a month. Ended the year on £31,953 what formula is used to calculator? The monthly contribution is throwing me.
Yeah I’m not celebrating yet.
From this time two years ago my numbers have all got bigger, but so have everyone else’s, and so have all the numbers on the stuff I need to live.
My assets/savings are probably not much changed in relation to my monthly/yearly liabilities/costs.
Let’s see how all the price rises pan out.
From this time two years ago my numbers have all got bigger, but so have everyone else’s, and so have all the numbers on the stuff I need to live.
My assets/savings are probably not much changed in relation to my monthly/yearly liabilities/costs.
Let’s see how all the price rises pan out.
Resto157 said:
Another one of the smaller portfolios, could someone
please help me out with a return percentage. Started the year with £23350, added £250 a month. Ended the year on £31,953 what formula is used to calculator? The monthly contribution is throwing me.
You could get handy with Excel but there's a basic calculator here which should put you there or there about.please help me out with a return percentage. Started the year with £23350, added £250 a month. Ended the year on £31,953 what formula is used to calculator? The monthly contribution is throwing me.
https://www.rateofreturnexpert.com/time-weighted-r...
Hang On said:
Resto157 said:
Another one of the smaller portfolios, could someone
please help me out with a return percentage. Started the year with £23350, added £250 a month. Ended the year on £31,953 what formula is used to calculator? The monthly contribution is throwing me.
If you have the monthly balances also it’s quite simple. Google Time Weighted Rate of Return. If not, you can figure out the IRR that would discount the end balance and monthly contributions back the the start balance. That’s latter approach is for XL wizards unless the fact that your contributions are the same each month means that there’s a simple method I don’t know about.please help me out with a return percentage. Started the year with £23350, added £250 a month. Ended the year on £31,953 what formula is used to calculator? The monthly contribution is throwing me.
1. Take a good guess at the return. So if you were broadly in S&P 500, you’d be around 28%.
2. Use that to calculate a monthly discount factor. So the 12th root of 1.28 is approx 1.021.
3. Use that to discount the contributions. 250/1.021 + 250/1.021^2 + 250/1.021^3+……….+ 250/1.021^12
4. Add the sum of that series to your start balance and calculate a simple return from end/beginning.
The result will not be perfect but you can do it on a pocket calculator.
zj2016 said:
williaa68 said:
That is indeed impressive. I’m up 10.1%, which I’m also very happy with as I am somewhat bearish and so trimmed some of my more aggressive positions during the year and am about 40% cash or index linked gilts (or a few old index linked national savings certificates - how I wish they still did those). Best performing stock is tritax big box reit, up about 48%. Worst was syncona, down about 19%. One good decision I made last year was selling my vanguard 60/40 fund and buying various ITs instead. The vanguard fund made 10%, the IT basket closer to 20. I do think the traditional 60/40 portfolio is dead. Next year may be tricky I think.
Excuse my ignorance, what’s ITs? Investment Trusts? I dabble with vanguard funds just now but looking to take a bit more risk. Gassing Station | Finance | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff



