New fixed location 'mobile phone cameras' being tested
Discussion
https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/30/new-game-changer-ca...
The new cameras have been trialled on and off for the last 6 months, and caught 15,000 drivers using their phones while driving on the motorway. As the article suggests, these figures are likely to be just the tip of the iceberg as you only have to spend a few minutes on any motorway to see numerous people using their phone to text, browse Facebook etc.
The new cameras have been trialled on and off for the last 6 months, and caught 15,000 drivers using their phones while driving on the motorway. As the article suggests, these figures are likely to be just the tip of the iceberg as you only have to spend a few minutes on any motorway to see numerous people using their phone to text, browse Facebook etc.
If they are fixed location the won’t Waze just tell these texting drivers where they are?
Still, at least they are targeting people who actually pose a risk. Popped over to Berkshire to see family last week and there was a speed camera van set up in the lay-by of a dual carriageway that was straight as a die - doubt it was preventing any accidents, but was definitely filling the coffers.
Still, at least they are targeting people who actually pose a risk. Popped over to Berkshire to see family last week and there was a speed camera van set up in the lay-by of a dual carriageway that was straight as a die - doubt it was preventing any accidents, but was definitely filling the coffers.
survivalist said:
If they are fixed location the won’t Waze just tell these texting drivers where they are?
Still, at least they are targeting people who actually pose a risk. Popped over to Berkshire to see family last week and there was a speed camera van set up in the lay-by of a dual carriageway that was straight as a die - doubt it was preventing any accidents, but was definitely filling the coffers.
Only around 5-6% of UK drivers use Waze, so whilst it will assist those offenders, the vast majority don’t even know what Waze is.Still, at least they are targeting people who actually pose a risk. Popped over to Berkshire to see family last week and there was a speed camera van set up in the lay-by of a dual carriageway that was straight as a die - doubt it was preventing any accidents, but was definitely filling the coffers.
I’m someone who considers myself technologically savvy and I do use driving/travel/navigation apps, but even I can’t be arsed having Waze running when I drive somewhere.
But yes, I agree that these ‘phone cameras’ are doing something useful and I genuinely hope they massacre the driving licences of millions of people who insist on wandering all over the motorway lanes while texting.
I should be careful what I wish for though. I was going to suggest they need to make the cameras small enough to mount discreetly on ordinary lampposts on all kinds of different roads, but they are probably considering doing that same thing with speed cameras…
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 4th January 00:10
Terminator X said:
"The offenders identified by the high-tech kit will not be penalised, however, as the trial is a ‘proof of concept’ and will need a change of law to be enforced."
TX.
I don't think the 'change of law' part will be a stumbling block. I expect it to be waved through as soon as it is required.TX.
About time. It's a plague and the amount of accidents must far exceed driving under the influence.
Every time I see a truck (or car, to be fair) either wandering onto the hard shoulder, or slowing down to 50 or 60 on the motorway, then randomly zooming back up to 80 for no good reason , they are almost always on the phone.
It's no surprise mind you . I've got the odd friend who literally cannot resists responding to any and all notifications on their phone no matter what they are doing to who they are talking to. And that's "grown ups"
Every time I see a truck (or car, to be fair) either wandering onto the hard shoulder, or slowing down to 50 or 60 on the motorway, then randomly zooming back up to 80 for no good reason , they are almost always on the phone.
It's no surprise mind you . I've got the odd friend who literally cannot resists responding to any and all notifications on their phone no matter what they are doing to who they are talking to. And that's "grown ups"
The law as written defines mobile phone use as illegal while 'driving'. I'm still waiting for someone to define with 100% certainty the minimum I have to do to no-longer be 'driving' so I can make a call.
Can those above clearly in favour of this law help?
Stopped?
Stopped in a layby?
Handbrake on?
Engine off via stop-start?
Engine off via key?
Key out of ignition?
How about keyless for the above?
Leaving the public highway?
Private car parks with public access, e.g. supermarket carpark?
Leaving drivers seat?
Locking the car after leaving it?
Can those above clearly in favour of this law help?
Stopped?
Stopped in a layby?
Handbrake on?
Engine off via stop-start?
Engine off via key?
Key out of ignition?
How about keyless for the above?
Leaving the public highway?
Private car parks with public access, e.g. supermarket carpark?
Leaving drivers seat?
Locking the car after leaving it?
alock said:
The law as written defines mobile phone use as illegal while 'driving'. I'm still waiting for someone to define with 100% certainty the minimum I have to do to no-longer be 'driving' so I can make a call.
Can those above clearly in favour of this law help?
Stopped?
Stopped in a layby?
Handbrake on?
Engine off via stop-start?
Engine off via key?
Key out of ignition?
How about keyless for the above?
Leaving the public highway?
Private car parks with public access, e.g. supermarket carpark?
Leaving drivers seat?
Locking the car after leaving it?
They need a better worded lawCan those above clearly in favour of this law help?
Stopped?
Stopped in a layby?
Handbrake on?
Engine off via stop-start?
Engine off via key?
Key out of ignition?
How about keyless for the above?
Leaving the public highway?
Private car parks with public access, e.g. supermarket carpark?
Leaving drivers seat?
Locking the car after leaving it?
I'm pretty sure there was something on here a while ago about the police trying to claim that someone outside of thier car on a static motorway jam was 'driving'
alock said:
The law as written defines mobile phone use as illegal while 'driving'. I'm still waiting for someone to define with 100% certainty the minimum I have to do to no-longer be 'driving' so I can make a call.
Can those above clearly in favour of this law help?
Stopped?
Stopped in a layby?
Handbrake on?
Engine off via stop-start?
Engine off via key?
Key out of ignition?
How about keyless for the above?
Leaving the public highway?
Private car parks with public access, e.g. supermarket carpark?
Leaving drivers seat?
Locking the car after leaving it?
I'm "clearly in favour of this law", but I can't help, sorry. I've taken it on good faith that they won't set a camera up pointing at an layby. I dunno, seems fairly obvious to me. Likewise I can't imagine the authorities will set one up in the adsa car park.Can those above clearly in favour of this law help?
Stopped?
Stopped in a layby?
Handbrake on?
Engine off via stop-start?
Engine off via key?
Key out of ignition?
How about keyless for the above?
Leaving the public highway?
Private car parks with public access, e.g. supermarket carpark?
Leaving drivers seat?
Locking the car after leaving it?
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