R51 WPX - anyone know this car
Discussion
So, after selling my Tuscan back in Feb, and being TVR less after 24 years continuous ownership, well, you know what’s comming…………
This Chimaera jumped out the classifieds at me over the Christmas period
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-LOW-MILEAGE-FULLY-...
Does anyone on here know the car? and any comments on the Canems eng man system.
Had most of the TVR models over the years, but never a Chim, so looks like another itch to scratch in 2022
Thanks all.
This Chimaera jumped out the classifieds at me over the Christmas period
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-LOW-MILEAGE-FULLY-...
Does anyone on here know the car? and any comments on the Canems eng man system.
Had most of the TVR models over the years, but never a Chim, so looks like another itch to scratch in 2022
Thanks all.
I had a Chimaera 4.0 from 2017 to 2019 with a Canems conversion. It was smoother than a standard one and being able to plug in a laptop to the ECU was a real advantage for real time readings and making adjustments to warm up idle engine speeds etc. However, mine was closed loop with the lambda probes removed. This one has them still fitted so would be more likely to give less emission issues.
More of a concern, however would be the advisories at the last MoT pass at the end of November
:
Nearside Rear Integral body structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Offside Rear Integral body structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Nearside Front Upper Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Nearside Front Lower Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Upper Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Lower Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Brake hose has slight corrosion to ferrule (1.1.12 (f) (i))
Oil leak, but not excessive Engine & transmission. (8.4.1 (a) (i))
The description suggests the front wishbones have been maybe attended to but you'd need to check.
More of a concern, however would be the advisories at the last MoT pass at the end of November
:Nearside Rear Integral body structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Offside Rear Integral body structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Nearside Front Upper Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Nearside Front Lower Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Upper Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Lower Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Brake hose has slight corrosion to ferrule (1.1.12 (f) (i))
Oil leak, but not excessive Engine & transmission. (8.4.1 (a) (i))
The description suggests the front wishbones have been maybe attended to but you'd need to check.
sixor8 said:
More of a concern, however would be the advisories at the last MoT pass at the end of November :
Nearside Rear Integral body structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Offside Rear Integral body structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Nearside Front Upper Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Nearside Front Lower Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Upper Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Lower Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Brake hose has slight corrosion to ferrule (1.1.12 (f) (i))
Oil leak, but not excessive Engine & transmission. (8.4.1 (a) (i))
Doesn't sound very 'fully sorted!' :Nearside Rear Integral body structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Offside Rear Integral body structure is corroded but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Nearside Front Upper Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Nearside Front Lower Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Upper Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Lower Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Brake hose has slight corrosion to ferrule (1.1.12 (f) (i))
Oil leak, but not excessive Engine & transmission. (8.4.1 (a) (i))
think this was hanging around BCA for a few months late last year with chasis advisories. probably ok to buy from a reputable TVR specialist who has since prepped the car accordingly, but would be very wary of buying from an ebay seller if they are just flipping it without addressing advisories. anyone know the seller?
I drove this very vehicle back in early 2019 when it was for sale at a garage in Yorkshire. I remember it having good history and being in reasonably good condition for its age. However it felt a little sluggish and experienced a slight hiccup on the test drive where the power cut out for a split second whilst accelerating. It wasn’t the car for me, but these issues may have been resolved now as this was a few years ago.
Andrew.
Andrew.
Surely a bit unusual for a (fully sorted?) Chimaera to change hands via BCA car auction? Thought BCA is where motor trade shift cars which they struggle to sell as regular stock on their forecourts or where fleet sellers bulk dispose cars. Cant imagine any TVR/ classic specialist would be getting rid of their stock here or indeed a private seller, so raises the question of how it ended up at BCA??
The guy is trying to flip it.
Fully sorted but no pics of chassis.
I bought mine off him many years ago. Just a second hand car dealer who said ( as far as he is aware chassis was sound ) on my car. 5 days later at a Tvr specialist I was told I’d bought a pup
I did get the car a bit cheaper than I’d expect for a 2000 year 450 with only 38,000 miles on the clock ( means f
k all )
15k later it’s well sorted
I knew what I was buying deep down. It was the cheapest late and low mileage car on the market at the time.
It’s simply because of that add (fully sorted) that I've answered this thread.
Go in EYES WIDE OPEN Without some photographic evidence of chassis condition or you take that risk into account be wary because as we can see the photos of Tvr that have had body lifts these last 10 years and it’s not usually a pretty sight.
This guy has been aware of Tvr chassis issues for years like the rest of us so take this add with a pinch of salt. ETA but does look like a highly specked car.
I was aware via documents my car had lived it’s life in Scotland with only one owner from new. Interior/ seats looked fantastic at the time and car was totally original but had a small oil leak,, which turned into an engine refresh,,, but that was my decision more than being strictly necessary.
I think rather than pick this guy or car out I’d just be very suspicious of any Tvr being sold at top line prices without at least a body lift and photographic evidence of its chassis condition regardless of the condition of the rest of the car.
My problem is I don’t think replacing riggers alone is now enough of a job in any case. Corrosion is starting to creep away from welded joints and into the tubes on main frames,,, saying that I don’t suppose people care about stuff they can’t see and just simply move the car on after they’ve had their fun I’d just be as wary of a car with riggers replaced on a tired chassis as one that was on its original riggers.
After months of considering this I think the body rubs/ moves just a mm or two on some cars which accelerates the Powdercoating breaking down in the corners.
Obviously where the car has lived and operated has quite an effect on corrosion activity.
Scotland / Wales or anywhere up north barely dries up in summer, there are always the odd puddle by the side of the road that’s still there in late May and allover the Uk so even summer use will incur road crud getting trapped which is the real cause.
The rot is nearly always in the same places then working out and along the tubes. Right where the body sits very close to rigger rails and so close as to not allowing any visual inspection of those sections of tube.
A simple cover stopping road crud would have negated a lot of this when you think about it.
Your front wheel and rear wheels are inches away from said areas.
If TVR had done this many riggers might still be intact.
Sadly many Tvr are afflicted by this rot issue.
It’s only because I addressed it with a body off which is not easy or cheap do I not pull punches here.
Inspections are at best a guess. It’s a really difficult situation for all concerned.
If I’d found PH when looking for a Tvr I might have known what the fk I was getting into. 
Imagine what it was like when only a few months after buying my car did I find this site. Jesus the reading freaked me out
In my heart of hearts I always new it would need a body off so like a berk spent 15K modding a few bits and pieces so it was worth doing the bloody body off lol.
If Covid hadn’t compounded an already poor situation I’m in I’d be quids in as I love driving the car mostly,,, use it for another 5-10 years, put 100,000 on it and flog it when I’m old to some kid for a song
Loose nothing and enjoyed all of it.
If you have restored,driven and maintained a TVR for a decade and spent accordingly to maintain a truly sound car selling it now is a dead loss frankly unless your a dealer flipping them
I’m sure the car in the add above has had a lot of money lavished on it. Just needs a little bit more to be a cracker I’d have thought, just like all of them.
I wish I’d bought a garage queen, looked at it for a decade and sell on at a profit. Using them changes that equation quite a bit
I’m very proud to say I whacked another 40,000 miles on my car as I did all this which has made it worth even less , I actually laugh at all this as I loved every second of those miles but my bank account and personnel health has suffered as I’m a poor soul… not in spirit though
Keep smiling and enjoying these cars while you can as after all the bullst that’s what it’s about. Fixing them is great fun if you go in eyes open.
Lots of us have spent many thousands we’ll never get back. Memories of great drives and days out are priceless though as the last few years remind me. I really miss TVR meets for instance.. Never thought I’d really say that to be honest but other great owners inspire you to keep at it. I miss seeing loads of really sorted Tvr. Remember this page is about TVR issues/ problems. Rarely do we talk of the fun of driving or even fixing them. Most are in great condition now because of dedicated owners. It’s ones for sale you need to be wary of of lol lol lol Joke ffs.
I’d buy the best I can for my money and just accept maybe not every area will be perfect unless it’s 20-25k and totally sorted, knowing full well that’s probably 30k to get to that standard including purchase price in any case.
Not something you see too often.
Fully sorted but no pics of chassis.
I bought mine off him many years ago. Just a second hand car dealer who said ( as far as he is aware chassis was sound ) on my car. 5 days later at a Tvr specialist I was told I’d bought a pup
I did get the car a bit cheaper than I’d expect for a 2000 year 450 with only 38,000 miles on the clock ( means f
k all ) 15k later it’s well sorted
I knew what I was buying deep down. It was the cheapest late and low mileage car on the market at the time.
It’s simply because of that add (fully sorted) that I've answered this thread.
Go in EYES WIDE OPEN Without some photographic evidence of chassis condition or you take that risk into account be wary because as we can see the photos of Tvr that have had body lifts these last 10 years and it’s not usually a pretty sight.
This guy has been aware of Tvr chassis issues for years like the rest of us so take this add with a pinch of salt. ETA but does look like a highly specked car.
I was aware via documents my car had lived it’s life in Scotland with only one owner from new. Interior/ seats looked fantastic at the time and car was totally original but had a small oil leak,, which turned into an engine refresh,,, but that was my decision more than being strictly necessary.
I think rather than pick this guy or car out I’d just be very suspicious of any Tvr being sold at top line prices without at least a body lift and photographic evidence of its chassis condition regardless of the condition of the rest of the car.
My problem is I don’t think replacing riggers alone is now enough of a job in any case. Corrosion is starting to creep away from welded joints and into the tubes on main frames,,, saying that I don’t suppose people care about stuff they can’t see and just simply move the car on after they’ve had their fun
I’d just be as wary of a car with riggers replaced on a tired chassis as one that was on its original riggers. After months of considering this I think the body rubs/ moves just a mm or two on some cars which accelerates the Powdercoating breaking down in the corners.
Obviously where the car has lived and operated has quite an effect on corrosion activity.
Scotland / Wales or anywhere up north barely dries up in summer, there are always the odd puddle by the side of the road that’s still there in late May and allover the Uk so even summer use will incur road crud getting trapped which is the real cause.
The rot is nearly always in the same places then working out and along the tubes. Right where the body sits very close to rigger rails and so close as to not allowing any visual inspection of those sections of tube.
A simple cover stopping road crud would have negated a lot of this when you think about it.
Your front wheel and rear wheels are inches away from said areas.
If TVR had done this many riggers might still be intact.
Sadly many Tvr are afflicted by this rot issue.
It’s only because I addressed it with a body off which is not easy or cheap do I not pull punches here.
Inspections are at best a guess. It’s a really difficult situation for all concerned.
If I’d found PH when looking for a Tvr I might have known what the f
k I was getting into. Imagine what it was like when only a few months after buying my car did I find this site. Jesus the reading freaked me out
In my heart of hearts I always new it would need a body off so like a berk spent 15K modding a few bits and pieces so it was worth doing the bloody body off lol.
If Covid hadn’t compounded an already poor situation I’m in I’d be quids in as I love driving the car mostly,,, use it for another 5-10 years, put 100,000 on it and flog it when I’m old to some kid for a song
Loose nothing and enjoyed all of it. If you have restored,driven and maintained a TVR for a decade and spent accordingly to maintain a truly sound car selling it now is a dead loss frankly unless your a dealer flipping them
I’m sure the car in the add above has had a lot of money lavished on it. Just needs a little bit more to be a cracker I’d have thought, just like all of them.
I wish I’d bought a garage queen, looked at it for a decade and sell on at a profit. Using them changes that equation quite a bit
I’m very proud to say I whacked another 40,000 miles on my car as I did all this which has made it worth even less , I actually laugh at all this as I loved every second of those miles but my bank account and personnel health has suffered as I’m a poor soul… not in spirit though
Keep smiling and enjoying these cars while you can as after all the bulls
t that’s what it’s about. Fixing them is great fun if you go in eyes open. Lots of us have spent many thousands we’ll never get back. Memories of great drives and days out are priceless though as the last few years remind me. I really miss TVR meets for instance.. Never thought I’d really say that to be honest but other great owners inspire you to keep at it. I miss seeing loads of really sorted Tvr. Remember this page is about TVR issues/ problems. Rarely do we talk of the fun of driving or even fixing them. Most are in great condition now because of dedicated owners. It’s ones for sale you need to be wary of of lol lol lol Joke ffs.
I’d buy the best I can for my money and just accept maybe not every area will be perfect unless it’s 20-25k and totally sorted, knowing full well that’s probably 30k to get to that standard including purchase price in any case.
Not something you see too often.
Edited by Classic Chim on Monday 17th January 10:57
Thanks for all the replies,
When I emailed the dealer asking if he could at least send me some pics of the chassis, before I travelled what is quite a distance for me, as the ad certainly contradicted the advisories on the last MOT, he just replied that, he had owned (think he meant sold!) over 40 TVR’s over the years, and this was the best one he had seen. Totally ignoring my request, needless to say I haven’t bothered with perusing it any further.
Am now looking at a Griffith (the yellow on on eBay) which has had total chassis refurb, been thermo plastic coated, engine refresh, new interior, new brakes/suspension/cooling system etc etc, all done by a very well known specialist.
Costing £10k more than I originally set out to spend, but long term well worth what hopefully will be hassle free ownership going forward, and probably saving me £££‘s in the long run.
When I emailed the dealer asking if he could at least send me some pics of the chassis, before I travelled what is quite a distance for me, as the ad certainly contradicted the advisories on the last MOT, he just replied that, he had owned (think he meant sold!) over 40 TVR’s over the years, and this was the best one he had seen. Totally ignoring my request, needless to say I haven’t bothered with perusing it any further.
Am now looking at a Griffith (the yellow on on eBay) which has had total chassis refurb, been thermo plastic coated, engine refresh, new interior, new brakes/suspension/cooling system etc etc, all done by a very well known specialist.
Costing £10k more than I originally set out to spend, but long term well worth what hopefully will be hassle free ownership going forward, and probably saving me £££‘s in the long run.
S6 ROR said:
Thanks for all the replies,
When I emailed the dealer asking if he could at least send me some pics of the chassis, before I travelled what is quite a distance for me, as the ad certainly contradicted the advisories on the last MOT, he just replied that, he had owned (think he meant sold!) over 40 TVR’s over the years, and this was the best one he had seen. Totally ignoring my request, needless to say I haven’t bothered with perusing it any further.
Am now looking at a Griffith (the yellow on on eBay) which has had total chassis refurb, been thermo plastic coated, engine refresh, new interior, new brakes/suspension/cooling system etc etc, all done by a very well known specialist.
Costing £10k more than I originally set out to spend, but long term well worth what hopefully will be hassle free ownership going forward, and probably saving me £££‘s in the long run.
You know it makes sense. Sounds great mate. Good luck When I emailed the dealer asking if he could at least send me some pics of the chassis, before I travelled what is quite a distance for me, as the ad certainly contradicted the advisories on the last MOT, he just replied that, he had owned (think he meant sold!) over 40 TVR’s over the years, and this was the best one he had seen. Totally ignoring my request, needless to say I haven’t bothered with perusing it any further.
Am now looking at a Griffith (the yellow on on eBay) which has had total chassis refurb, been thermo plastic coated, engine refresh, new interior, new brakes/suspension/cooling system etc etc, all done by a very well known specialist.
Costing £10k more than I originally set out to spend, but long term well worth what hopefully will be hassle free ownership going forward, and probably saving me £££‘s in the long run.
Hi all
I sold this car, the last 2 MOTs were carried out at the same Quick Fit branch who advised rust on the chassis tubes
This wasn't correct and far from it
The chassis was original and with its original white powder coating which had been treated with clear wax oil over the years
This made the chassis look a browny orange in colour through the white tubes hence the QUICK FIT MOT... incorrect advise
This TVR is a beautiful example and is now sold, and one of the nicest examples I have ever owned or driven.
I do run myself today a mint Griffith 5.0 and I've always owned a TVR for the past 20 years but I must say I was very temped to swap the griff
I very really post on Pistonheads but do enjoy reading on the site, but I needed to state these informed facts about this particular Chimaera
Thanks for reading
I sold this car, the last 2 MOTs were carried out at the same Quick Fit branch who advised rust on the chassis tubes
This wasn't correct and far from it
The chassis was original and with its original white powder coating which had been treated with clear wax oil over the years
This made the chassis look a browny orange in colour through the white tubes hence the QUICK FIT MOT... incorrect advise
This TVR is a beautiful example and is now sold, and one of the nicest examples I have ever owned or driven.
I do run myself today a mint Griffith 5.0 and I've always owned a TVR for the past 20 years but I must say I was very temped to swap the griff
I very really post on Pistonheads but do enjoy reading on the site, but I needed to state these informed facts about this particular Chimaera
Thanks for reading
In that case why didn’t you show pictures of this lovely chassis in your add?
For a chap who has apparently sold so many Tvr you would know without chassis pics the Tvr family will be suspicious.
Have you ever taken a body off one of these cars. So many Tvr have rot in places you can’t see but in fact I’m sure you know this.
So are you saying the corrosion as highlighted by MOT was not corrosion at all?
I’m sorry but there are so many stories of apparently decent outriggers that all turn out to be rotten and cost people a min of 2k and if it’s worse than first thought you can then add upto 5-10k for a proper body off repair and chassis correction. An add like yours with no evidence to support your words doesn’t really mean anything! Pictures only tell half the story and without actual proof someone has lifted the body and inspected the riggers or you have done so you have no real idea of the state of the riggers anymore than most owners do. My car passed its MOT for 10 years with knackered riggers which tells you quite a bit about how hard it is to see such rot. All 4 corners were completely shot in truth and had been for many years. It didn’t just form over night 10 years ago it formed the day after it left the factory. In fact most chassis were rusty before they built em lol
As us owners know fully sorted means just that. That requires proof of rigger integrity as much as any fancy ecu or anything else.
When a high priced Tvr comes on the market we want some evidence it’s “fully sorted”
Now I’m not saying it’s not and never have done… it just looks odd when there are no pictures of these important areas.
If someone has paid you 21k then I assume they know what they are buying and confirmed “it’s a good one” and will enjoy the car for years to come so congratulations on selling it
For a chap who has apparently sold so many Tvr you would know without chassis pics the Tvr family will be suspicious.
Have you ever taken a body off one of these cars. So many Tvr have rot in places you can’t see but in fact I’m sure you know this.
So are you saying the corrosion as highlighted by MOT was not corrosion at all?
I’m sorry but there are so many stories of apparently decent outriggers that all turn out to be rotten and cost people a min of 2k and if it’s worse than first thought you can then add upto 5-10k for a proper body off repair and chassis correction. An add like yours with no evidence to support your words doesn’t really mean anything! Pictures only tell half the story and without actual proof someone has lifted the body and inspected the riggers or you have done so you have no real idea of the state of the riggers anymore than most owners do. My car passed its MOT for 10 years with knackered riggers which tells you quite a bit about how hard it is to see such rot. All 4 corners were completely shot in truth and had been for many years. It didn’t just form over night 10 years ago it formed the day after it left the factory. In fact most chassis were rusty before they built em lol
As us owners know fully sorted means just that. That requires proof of rigger integrity as much as any fancy ecu or anything else.
When a high priced Tvr comes on the market we want some evidence it’s “fully sorted”
Now I’m not saying it’s not and never have done… it just looks odd when there are no pictures of these important areas.
If someone has paid you 21k then I assume they know what they are buying and confirmed “it’s a good one” and will enjoy the car for years to come so congratulations on selling it
Edited by Classic Chim on Sunday 23 January 08:42
Edited by Classic Chim on Sunday 23 January 08:51
ouch.
It was fully inspected in great detail on a hydraulic lift ramp by the new owner who restores classic Porsches to concourse standards for customers and a very knowledgeable and interesting chap too .......He also ownes and flies a 1945 Mustang fighter...WOW !!
Hence the TVR I guess LOL
He purchased this not for restoration far from it, he just wanted a nice Chimaera for himself for a bit summer fun
And thats exactly what these lovely old TVRs are.............'' summer fun ''
He will no doubt be joining the community and I hope you welcome him has a new member
Long time no see Alun... Your S by the way was exported to Australia back then
Hope you are keeping well ....I'm sure you made that 450 a cracking example one too be proud of
Cheers All
Steve
It was fully inspected in great detail on a hydraulic lift ramp by the new owner who restores classic Porsches to concourse standards for customers and a very knowledgeable and interesting chap too .......He also ownes and flies a 1945 Mustang fighter...WOW !!
Hence the TVR I guess LOL
He purchased this not for restoration far from it, he just wanted a nice Chimaera for himself for a bit summer fun
And thats exactly what these lovely old TVRs are.............'' summer fun ''
He will no doubt be joining the community and I hope you welcome him has a new member
Long time no see Alun... Your S by the way was exported to Australia back then
Hope you are keeping well ....I'm sure you made that 450 a cracking example one too be proud of
Cheers All
Steve
cheeseblock said:
ouch.
It was fully inspected in great detail on a hydraulic lift ramp by the new owner who restores classic Porsches to concourse standards for customers and a very knowledgeable and interesting chap too .......He also ownes and flies a 1945 Mustang fighter...WOW !!
Hence the TVR I guess LOL
He purchased this not for restoration far from it, he just wanted a nice Chimaera for himself for a bit summer fun
And thats exactly what these lovely old TVRs are.............'' summer fun ''
He will no doubt be joining the community and I hope you welcome him has a new member
Long time no see Alun... Your S by the way was exported to Australia back then
Hope you are keeping well ....I'm sure you made that 450 a cracking example one too be proud of
Cheers All
Steve
Hi mate. Yes I was going to ask as I’ve looked over every S car ever since and not found it lol. It was fully inspected in great detail on a hydraulic lift ramp by the new owner who restores classic Porsches to concourse standards for customers and a very knowledgeable and interesting chap too .......He also ownes and flies a 1945 Mustang fighter...WOW !!
Hence the TVR I guess LOL
He purchased this not for restoration far from it, he just wanted a nice Chimaera for himself for a bit summer fun
And thats exactly what these lovely old TVRs are.............'' summer fun ''
He will no doubt be joining the community and I hope you welcome him has a new member
Long time no see Alun... Your S by the way was exported to Australia back then
Hope you are keeping well ....I'm sure you made that 450 a cracking example one too be proud of
Cheers All
Steve
That was a great little car for sure. Like most owners that sell a good Tvr they want to buy it back a few years later
That’s wonderful to hear. Hopefully it’s chassis will last forever now then.
We welcome all comers here.
I’m glad the car has found a good home.
Yes mines going like a stabbed rat. Crank shells showed a bit of wear about a year after I had her off you so I ended up with a rebuilt engine and never regretted that at all. Its a solid quick engine.
It’s cleaner than my house too
What I would say here as I’ve said consistently throughout this thread, without prying the body away or lifting chassis it’s very hard for anyone to be 100% sure of chassis. If the chassis shows no corrosion underneath that isn’t just correction on the bits you can see it’s likely to be intact above. It’s rare but they do exist as my mates 2000 car same colour as mine, down the same production line 3 months apart has a very good chassis overall when body had a 4 inch lift to inspect. His car lived down south and had a pampered life. They do exist that’s true.
A few pictures would have saved any of this mind.
Take it easy mate and good luck for the future. I’ll give you a call if and when I want to sell my car. It’s a cracker and always was to be fair. Be a good full circle. You’d love it
You were never to know about the riggers than I was until a long time later. I think they all rot from berth and rarely do we come across cars like the one you have just sold but there was a Griff on Facebook recently that had a lift and the riggers were 100% intact, it’s hard to believe when you see other chassis.
I’m now very suspicious of any older car sadly that does not show pictures of chassis in adds which is why I answered this thread at all.
Keep on Tivvin
Edited by Classic Chim on Monday 24th January 07:55
Edited by Classic Chim on Monday 24th January 07:59
Edited by Classic Chim on Monday 24th January 08:21
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