Near miss leads to another near miss as train hits plane
Near miss leads to another near miss as train hits plane
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surveyor

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18,602 posts

207 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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This pilot used a number of his lives. Very close call.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-5994...

greygoose

9,387 posts

218 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Very lucky bloke, do American trains ever manage to stop before crashing through whatever car/truck/plane in in their way?

GroundZero

2,085 posts

77 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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2nd camera angle from the guy further downwind looking back to the crossing, also has a narrow escape from flying debris.

It looked like an express train which travels at speed. Given that many american railways are mostly straight for miles and miles, I presume train drivers expect to see road crossings have traffic passing on them until a certain distance away by which they'd expect the barriers to be down. I have a feeling however, that this point is way beyond the distance required to stop an express train.


Simpo Two

91,327 posts

288 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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GroundZero said:
It looked like an express train which travels at speed. Given that many american railways are mostly straight for miles and miles, I presume train drivers expect to see road crossings have traffic passing on them until a certain distance away by which they'd expect the barriers to be down. I have a feeling however, that this point is way beyond the distance required to stop an express train.
It's the same everywhere. That's why level crossings have gates - trains aren't very good at giving way!

I don't suppose the driver enjoyed it much either; for all he knew there were still people in it...

Edited by Simpo Two on Tuesday 11th January 09:41

GroundZero

2,085 posts

77 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Simpo Two said:
That's why level crossings have gates - trains aren't very good at giving way!
haha yes, I thought that point was a given.

The question however that I was inferring was as to why the driver may not have applied the brakes much earlier (given that the train still passed by at speed), may be due to an expectation from the driver of traffic on the crossing up until a certain distance? From which the train driver would then expect the barrier to be down. Also at that distance the driver would likely then be able to make out it was an airplane, but by then of course far too late to stop the train. Just speculation on my part , I've no experience with how trains operate over in the US. But there are a few videos of trains colliding with traffic as large as HGVs that have come out of the US over the past few years.


Yep, agree with you, the the viewpoint from the driver will be something to bear in mind, there were people on the crossing up until just a second or two before impact.

PurpleTurtle

8,654 posts

167 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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I watched this a few times yesterday.

Kudos to the cops involved in this who seemed to keep a very clear head and drag him out with only seconds to spare with an express train bearing down on them rapidly.

It's very hard to train (no pun intended) for something like that, and although some would say "all in a day's work" it really does show a lot of bravery for the benefit of one's fellow citizen.

In a world where the Police are often criticised (guilty myself, sometimes) we would do well to remember that those officers put themselves in harm's way for a modest salary.

Eric Mc

124,791 posts

288 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Talk about having a bad day -

engine failure on take off (probably)
crash landing
plane hit by train

I expect he's going to concentrate on stamp collecting when he gets out of hospital.

Simpo Two

91,327 posts

288 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Eric Mc said:
I expect he's going to concentrate on stamp collecting when he gets out of hospital.
hehe

It reminds me of the scene in 'Hot Shots' where Topper Harley (Charlie Sheen) climbs out of the crater he's just made, only to be run over by the ambulance...

Landing it on a level crossing wasn't the best idea, if he had any choice in the matter.

eharding

14,648 posts

307 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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Eric Mc said:
Talk about having a bad day -

engine failure on take off (probably)
crash landing
plane hit by train

I expect he's going to concentrate on stamp collecting when he gets out of hospital.
With his luck he'll discover a block of 12 mint 1840 Penny Blacks in the first package of random stamps he buys, only for his dog to eat it and then die of ink poisoning.

montymoo

390 posts

190 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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greygoose said:
Very lucky bloke, do American trains ever manage to stop before crashing through whatever car/truck/plane in in their way?
From my experiance of cartoons and movies they do not.

eharding said:
With his luck he'll discover a block of 12 mint 1840 Penny Blacks in the first package of random stamps he buys, only for his dog to eat it and then die of ink poisoning.
laughlaugh


Anyway hopefully he is all well and enjoying a glass or bottle of scotch.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

196 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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That is Final Destination stuff.

Flying Phil

1,710 posts

168 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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I would think that the actual stopping distance of any express train is almost a mile! No way could the driver of the train stop in time.

FourWheelDrift

91,853 posts

307 months

Saturday 15th January 2022
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greygoose said:
Very lucky bloke, do American trains ever manage to stop before crashing through whatever car/truck/plane in in their way?
No, it makes for endless youtube video playback enjoyment. I've yet to reach the end of the list.

matchmaker

8,968 posts

223 months

Sunday 16th January 2022
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Flying Phil said:
I would think that the actual stopping distance of any express train is almost a mile! No way could the driver of the train stop in time.
Here's an HST doing an emergency stop from 125mph. Takes a fair distance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFBkyAABRI

john2443

6,500 posts

234 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Given that 99.9999999999% of the US isn't level crossing it's pretty unlucky to land on the .0000000001% that is!

bigothunter

13,073 posts

83 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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matchmaker said:
Flying Phil said:
I would think that the actual stopping distance of any express train is almost a mile! No way could the driver of the train stop in time.
Here's an HST doing an emergency stop from 125mph. Takes a fair distance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFBkyAABRI
Train max braking deceleration sits between 0.2 to 0.8 m/s2. Cars can decelerate from 7.5 to 9.8 m/s2, potentially more.

Trains don't stop...

loggo

470 posts

135 months

Tuesday 18th January 2022
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Steel wheels on steel track don't have the grip of rubber on tarmac

Electronicpants

3,031 posts

211 months

Tuesday 18th January 2022
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Crikey, not his day, but also very much his day!

Found the footage of the inside of the ambulance to the hospital