RE: Ferrari FF | Spotted
RE: Ferrari FF | Spotted
Sunday 23rd January 2022

Ferrari FF | Spotted

The FF won't be the last all-wheel-drive Ferrari, but it might be the most interesting...



Assuming all goes to plan, Ferrari's new Purosangue SUV will be shown to the world this year. Nothing quite validates an idea like Maranello getting on board with it, and having witnessed the success of cars like the Lamborghini Urus, the manufacturer has been compelled to join the super SUV fray. But not with an SUV, of course - the Purosangue will be an FUV, or 'Ferrari Utility Vehicle'...

Anyway, point is that the Purosangue represents Ferrari attempting something new, much as it did a little more than a decade ago with the FF. For a long time, you knew what to expect from Ferrari's four-seat, V12 GTs; the FF completely defied those expectations, thanks in part to its revolutionary four-wheel-drive system.

That made the flagship Ferrari a year-round supercar, the 4RM independently driven front axle ensuring security when owners needed it, and the thrill of a 660hp Ferrari when they wanted it. The FF was better built, more technologically advanced and way faster than any four-seat Ferrari that preceded it, so no wonder buyers set about using them enthusiastically. When it came to the GTC4 update, Ferrari said that FF owners were using their cars more than any other car it had ever made, an achievement you would have to assume will last until the Purosangue. Those owners had also suggested the 6.2 V12 was a bit vocal at less than 3,000rpm, and it was toned down for the new car. Far from a Ferrari saved for high days and holidays, the FF was being put into regular use by its owners. And apparently making too much of a din while trundling around town...

The duality really was the FF's genius, and Ferrari will hope to replicate that with the Purosangue. With a smart dual-clutch gearbox, ample torque and the four-wheel drive, the FF didn't have to be any more taxing than, say, a Continental GT. But the scintillating, 8,000rpm V12 and supreme dynamic abilities meant the FF absolutely felt like a Ferrari when the kids had been dropped off at the stables and you were free to drive. There was no penalty imposed for a more usable Ferrari - a win-win in anyone's book.



Where the FF was indeed like a traditional four-seat Ferrari, however, was in how it depreciated. When PH tested one in 2015, it was specced up to £312,743. By the time of the GTC4 Lusso's reveal in March 2016 at Geneva, the very earliest cars were down to £150k after just a few years. When our Buying Guide was published last summer, prices were down to just £80,000.

They've shored up a bit since then, and now £100k is the starting point for an FF, which buys a car with almost 40,000 miles - unheard of in the old V12 days. In fact, bar one outlier, every single FF for sale has at least 12,000 miles on it, and plenty are past 20k. By comparison, there's just one example of its 612 predecessor with more than 30,000 miles recorded, despite being that much older.

This FF looks a superb example. There's not a Ferrari in history that doesn't suit tan leather, and 'Cuoio Toscano' works nicely here to brighten up the interior. (The later GTC4 Lusso brought a larger central screen and the optional passenger display, FYI). Grigio FF for the outside is again quite muted in best big Ferrari tradition, and seems flawless in the images. An early FF from 2012, it's covered 25,000 miles from new and has a full Ferrari service history to back up the past decade of use.

Furthermore, while £110k isn't exactly the average family wagon budget, don't forget this engine is derived from the Enzo V12, and the dual-clutch gearbox means none of the histrionics associated with the automated manual 599 GTB or similar. It's the most affordable way into that engine and the DCT, basically, so don't say we never do sensible consumer advice on PistonHeads. If the Purosangue isn't the four-seat, four-wheel-drive Ferrari for you, maybe now's the FF's time to shine.


SPECIFICATION | FERRARI FF

Engine: 6,262cc V12
Transmission: 7-speed transaxle dual clutch rear-wheel drive plus independent part-time 4RM front axle drive system
Power (hp): 660@8,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 504@6,000rpm
0-62mph: 3.7sec
Top speed: 209mph
MPG: 18.3 (NEDC combined with optional HELE package)
CO2: 360g/km (with optional HELE package)
Year registered: 2012
Recorded mileage: 25,000
Price new: £227,142 (2015, before options)
Yours for: £109,990

See the original advert here







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Discussion

Lotusgav

Original Poster:

169 posts

189 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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I love these - but no FF’s for sale in Australia! A GTC4 will set you back 400k :-(

Fresh Prince

543 posts

202 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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When my numbers come in, it’s this or an F355.

Turini

477 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Replacing our Rapide with one in the next 12 months, I need a car capable of being able to take two growing kids so it’s not a pure indulgence for me. Prices have definitely firmed up in the last year, hoping for them to dip again though

pycraft

1,496 posts

214 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Turini said:
Replacing our Rapide with one in the next 12 months, I need a car capable of being able to take two growing kids so it’s not a pure indulgence for me. Prices have definitely firmed up in the last year, hoping for them to dip again though
Interesting - is this just to experience a different car, or something problematic about the Rapide?

burpface

179 posts

185 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Stunning looking car.

There is nothing quite so special as a Ferrari V12.

Ausdonk

7 posts

57 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Lotusgav said:
I love these - but no FF’s for sale in Australia! A GTC4 will set you back 400k :-(
There were a few around in 2020 in the low AUD200s. Was trying to work out whether it was a realistic alternative to an RS6. Love one of these. Wait until the jobkeeper money has rolled off and interest rates pick up 75bps then pounce. I can’t see how short of actually blowing up how they will ever drop too much below 150k and it can carry the dogs, be driven in traffic and probably won’t attract undue attention.

Edited by Ausdonk on Sunday 23 January 07:59

Court_S

14,750 posts

207 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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I love these, I think they’re ace. I’d have one if I had the cash.

dobly

1,628 posts

189 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Best looking 4 seater car on the planet - as it doesn't have too many doors! Love the shooting brake design, so that the driver gets a proper length door with the b-pillar well out the way of peripheral vision, and the passengers get their own proper seats, especially on the GTC4Lusso. A proper family car for the fortunate and those whose numbers come up. I'll have mine in the dark blue with the full panorama roof please - I keep my eye of the classifieds...

Maccmike8

1,612 posts

84 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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My favourite modern Fez.

Kettmark

929 posts

183 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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I'm hoping to trade up from my Granturismo to an FF this summer as a 50th birthday pressie to myself. Love these things.

Turini

477 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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pycraft said:
Interesting - is this just to experience a different car, or something problematic about the Rapide?
Good question, nothing intrinsically wrong with the Rapide, we really like it and boys love being in it.

Desire to move to FF is partly due to my 50th coming up so nice indulgence and having enjoyed a V12 which can cart the family around i do have a feeling that Ferrari is a step up again in terms of engineering pedigree.

If funds allow we’d like to store the Aston and see what happen to values over the next decade, don’t think we’ll lose much

Turini

477 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Kettmark said:
I'm hoping to trade up from my Granturismo to an FF this summer as a 50th birthday pressie to myself. Love these things.
Me too..! Wife thinks it’s a prolonged mid life crisis which I’m happy to exploit..!

NumBMW

1,016 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Turini said:
Replacing our Rapide with one in the next 12 months, I need a car capable of being able to take two growing kids so it’s not a pure indulgence for me. Prices have definitely firmed up in the last year, hoping for them to dip again though
A Mondeo is capable of being able to take two growing kids, I’d say a Ferrari is an indulgence!!
Fantastic to be able to make the choice and it’s the one I would make if I had the funds

samoht

7,287 posts

176 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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I love how far back the engine is, making it front-mid-engined, and the way they took drive off the front of the crankshaft to the front wheels rather than passing shafts underneath. Also as stated, a generation ahead of the 599 and a lot cheaper than an F12, and 4WD likely an advantage too. And I love the shooting brake body style, more original and more practical than a lift-generating falling fastback body line.

I do wonder how the size and weight affects the drive, though - it's rather close to 5m x 2m x 2 tonnes


Manic Street Sleeper

1,173 posts

71 months

waynecyclist

14,740 posts

144 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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I think this is one of the best modern Ferrari's, a V12 in TDF blue would suit me if the lottery win comes in.

Spleen

5,453 posts

151 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Maccmike8 said:
My favourite modern Fez.
Do you call a Ford a Foz? Or Vauxhall a Vox? How about a Mini; a Mi?

samoht

7,287 posts

176 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Spleen said:
Do you call a Ford a Foz? Or Vauxhall a Vox? How about a Mini; a Mi?
No, you don't. But most people do use the following abbreviations in ordinary speech

BMW - Beemer or Bimmer
Mercedes - Merc
Land Rover - Landie
Range Rover - Rangie
Volkswagen - VW or VeeDub
Alfa Romeo - Alfa
Chevrolet - Chevy
Subaru - Scoobie or Subie
Jaguar - Jag
Lamborghini - Lambo

The general rule is that any brand name of one or two syllables (Ford or Vauxhall) is said as-is, but any name of three or more syllables is given a one or two syllable nickname in casual conversation.



Spleen

5,453 posts

151 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Well done you.

James_33

681 posts

96 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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NumBMW said:
Turini said:
Replacing our Rapide with one in the next 12 months, I need a car capable of being able to take two growing kids so it’s not a pure indulgence for me. Prices have definitely firmed up in the last year, hoping for them to dip again though
A Mondeo is capable of being able to take two growing kids, I’d say a Ferrari is an indulgence!!
Fantastic to be able to make the choice and it’s the one I would make if I had the funds
yes