'Driving Advice Letter' following careless driving report
'Driving Advice Letter' following careless driving report
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FatboyKim

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2,561 posts

59 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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I submitted an online report and statement to Essex Police recently regarding a driver who does the same thing almost every morning at the exact same time. There's a long queue of traffic, which actually goes down fairly quickly, but this particular driver drives up to the right-turn only filter lane at the red traffic light like it's a VIP lane, and then slowly creeps over the solid line through the red light and pedestrian crossing at an angle to move his car in front of whatever vehicle is waiting first in the line at the red light in order to go straight on at full throttle at the first hint of the amber light. If any road user dare challenge him, he produces a range of hand gestures and verbal abuse.

I've captured it perfectly on dashcam a few times so submitted it to Essex Police recently, who replied fairly quickly to thank me for the report and that the matter will be dealt with by sending the driver a 'Driving Advice Letter explaining that the driving behaviour shown by the driver at the time fell below that expected of a careful and competent driver.'

Creeping through a red light, creeping through a pedestrian crossing and blocking it, cutting dangerously in front of other cars, carelessly using the wrong lane, oh the cherry on top is that car (a shagged BMW X5 'S44 CYP') has no tax or MOT, what more would it take for something greater than a namby-pamby letter to be sent?!

Would a similar warning be given were a police officer in a traffic car to witness this?

IJWS15

2,203 posts

114 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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If he is still doing it then submit another film

UTH

12,231 posts

207 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Sounds like the sort of wker move I used to do in my youth at one certain spot in west London. However I'd be fairly ashamed whilst doing it, and hide my head in shame whilst being beeped at until it went green then drive away quickly, secretly pleased with myself that I'd beaten the queue. I certainly wouldn't be giving hand gestures etc to anyone complaining at me as even back then I knew I was totally in the wrong.

Largechris

2,019 posts

120 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Could be worse. Awful cow personnel director at my old employer used to do this sort of thing in front of me most mornings. Teeth grinding.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

272 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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MOT expired 6 months ago! Hopefully only a matter of time before he gets a tug for something as he sounds a right-one.

Edited by tonyvid on Thursday 27th January 12:02

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

92 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Well done for reporting it OP

We can only hope that plod have followed up re the MOT issue too

Mr_Megalomaniac

1,273 posts

95 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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FatboyKim said:
Creeping through a red light, creeping through a pedestrian crossing and blocking it, cutting dangerously in front of other cars, carelessly using the wrong lane, oh the cherry on top is that car (a shagged BMW X5 'S44 CYP') has no tax or MOT, what more would it take for something greater than a namby-pamby letter to be sent?!
Is he usually within reach of a strong armed throw?
If so:
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/304...

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Mr_Megalomaniac said:
FatboyKim said:
Creeping through a red light, creeping through a pedestrian crossing and blocking it, cutting dangerously in front of other cars, carelessly using the wrong lane, oh the cherry on top is that car (a shagged BMW X5 'S44 CYP') has no tax or MOT, what more would it take for something greater than a namby-pamby letter to be sent?!
Is he usually within reach of a strong armed throw?
If so:
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/304...
The mushy peas are a lot cheaper at 22p a can rather than the Broad Beans at 65p a can so you could waste 3 cans on this joker rather than just the 1.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/300...

Spidersleg

753 posts

112 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Lets see the video

Mr_Megalomaniac

1,273 posts

95 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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gottans said:
The mushy peas are a lot cheaper at 22p a can rather than the Broad Beans at 65p a can so you could waste 3 cans on this joker rather than just the 1.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/300...
Oooh, nicely found. I confess I didn't look long enough but I do like your economising mindset.

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Only had a new log book issued on the 13th so will have been sold for cash to some scum-bag chav type.


Mr Miata

1,220 posts

79 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Its a sad state of affairs when guys like him can drive how they want, knowing that the police will just send him a strongly worded letter, that he will file in the bin, rather than having any traffic police sat at that junction.

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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Mr Miata said:
Its a sad state of affairs when guys like him can drive how they want, knowing that the police will just send him a strongly worded letter, that he will file in the bin, rather than having any traffic police sat at that junction.
More likely he'll chuck it out the car window!

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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If it has no tax and MOT it potentially has no insurance either and is not registered to the correct address therefore the drive won’t be getting any letter! Just report it daily. One day the police might be at the junction

tonyvid

9,889 posts

272 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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AJL308 said:
Only had a new log book issued on the 13th so will have been sold for cash to some scum-bag chav type.

Just out of interest, how do you find out when the ownership changed?

FatboyKim

Original Poster:

2,561 posts

59 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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Owner [driver, at least] is a young black lad, seat rolled all the way back, one hand lazily hanging from the top of the steering wheel, phone in the other hand about an inch from his face. According to askMID it does have insurance. Whenever I'm in a position towards the start of the queue that's it's able to be picked up on dashcam, I'll continue to report it to the police until it's clear that the a stern message from the police has trickled through to the driver or that he's simply been caught. Until then, we can just hope that he cuts in front of a person one day who doesn't take kindly to his idiot driving.

Edited by FatboyKim on Friday 28th January 09:36

Trevor555

5,412 posts

113 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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tonyvid said:
AJL308 said:
Only had a new log book issued on the 13th so will have been sold for cash to some scum-bag chav type.

Just out of interest, how do you find out when the ownership changed?
Do a RFL check on the GOV website.

Scroll down and you'll see "Date of last V5C (logbook) issued.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

272 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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Trevor555 said:
tonyvid said:
AJL308 said:
Only had a new log book issued on the 13th so will have been sold for cash to some scum-bag chav type.

Just out of interest, how do you find out when the ownership changed?
Do a RFL check on the GOV website.

Scroll down and you'll see "Date of last V5C (logbook) issued.
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AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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Trevor555 said:
tonyvid said:
AJL308 said:
Only had a new log book issued on the 13th so will have been sold for cash to some scum-bag chav type.

Just out of interest, how do you find out when the ownership changed?
Do a RFL check on the GOV website.

Scroll down and you'll see "Date of last V5C (logbook) issued.
Yes. Although, technically, that doesn't prove it changed ownership as it may denote a plate change or some change in other details but in this case it sounds like ownership change.

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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FatboyKim said:
Owner [driver, at least] is a young black lad, seat rolled all the way back, one hand lazily hanging from the top of the steering wheel, phone in the other hand about an inch from his face. According to askMID it does have insurance. Whenever I'm in a position towards the start of the queue that's it's able to be picked up on dashcam, I'll continue to report it to the police until it's clear that the a stern message from the police has trickled through to the driver or that he's simply been caught. Until then, we can just hope that he cuts in front of a person one day who doesn't take kindly to his idiot driving.

Edited by FatboyKim on Friday 28th January 09:36
Is it actually insured for the person driving though? It may be that the previous owner hasn't cancelled his insurance yet after selling it?