Am I overthinking it (re the seller)
Am I overthinking it (re the seller)
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mrdanbartlett

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720 posts

245 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Hi all,

Bit random but looking for some reassurance on something. I'm looking at a car (its 35k so not a cheap runabout). I found an example which sounds v good, 1 owner, full dealer history, 4 top brand match tyres etc.

The only thing that concerns me is the seller is ebay based, and usually sells 5-20k cars - pics look from a public (not residential) road/carpark (but all his cars pictured from the same spot). No website or info about the seller but they usually have 10 or so cars for sale, have been on ebay 10 years and such.
Naturally there are no reviews for actual car purchases I can see as I'd assume the buyers go see them and do direct deals to avoid ebay fee's.
I just question why they don't use autotrader, PH or other selling places, have a little website or such.

I should just select based on the car itself and not the the seller right? I'm one of those people who usually prefers to buy private as you can get a feel for the owner, of course every option has pro's and cons.



Monkeylegend

29,014 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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I think making a judgement re the seller is just as important as judging the car.

stevekoz

577 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Have you got or would you be willing to post a link to the car?

A quick ebay search at £34,999 to £35,000 ONLY shows up 8 vehicles but can't be sure which one you are referring too. Or if its actually one of those.

Of all the 8 vehicles i've seen they are all dealers with 0 feedback but links to their actual website. They are just using ebay as a cheap method to advertise the vehicle - which it can be if you are clever/quick enough to avoid fees by not selling through the site.

If you look at the advert, scroll past the description to the bottom the company is often listed there. And each of those 8 are part of larger franchised groups. If you then google that name you should be taken to their actual website and be able to cross reference the vehicle on the website.

It's actually how i found my last car and had similar questions, but about 30 mins of research i found they were a well known, reputable and quite large dealership and they were just using ebay to get footfall to their cars as a way of cheap advertising.

BUT the above post is right, trusting the seller is as important as the car. But do your research and due diligence. Look up the MOT history, do a HPI check etc. Before you even go and see the car etc.


mrdanbartlett

Original Poster:

720 posts

245 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Hi, thanks for the responses.

Here is the car, it sounds v good in terms of history etc.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255319423648?_trkparms=...

Monkeylegend

29,014 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Do they offer any warranty?

Not sure if it is the light but the front bumper looks a different shade to the wings and the gap over the nearside headlight looks a bit bigger than the offside, but it could be my eyesight.

There was another C63 advertised on here recently, same colour I think which had obviously had a not too good front end repair, maybe not the same car, but that one was from Birmingham as well.

stevemcs

10,213 posts

121 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Only a mobile number and Birmingham and no fixed business address - i would move on.

V8covin

10,032 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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mrdanbartlett said:
Hi all,

Bit random but looking for some reassurance on something. I'm looking at a car (its 35k so not a cheap runabout). I found an example which sounds v good, 1 owner, full dealer history, 4 top brand match tyres etc.

The only thing that concerns me is the seller is ebay based, and usually sells 5-20k cars - pics look from a public (not residential) road/carpark (but all his cars pictured from the same spot). No website or info about the seller but they usually have 10 or so cars for sale, have been on ebay 10 years and such.
Naturally there are no reviews for actual car purchases I can see as I'd assume the buyers go see them and do direct deals to avoid ebay fee's.
I just question why they don't use autotrader, PH or other selling places, have a little website or such.

I should just select based on the car itself and not the the seller right? I'm one of those people who usually prefers to buy private as you can get a feel for the owner, of course every option has pro's and cons.
It's not 1 owner, it's one previous owner

Monkeylegend

29,014 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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V8covin said:
mrdanbartlett said:
Hi all,

Bit random but looking for some reassurance on something. I'm looking at a car (its 35k so not a cheap runabout). I found an example which sounds v good, 1 owner, full dealer history, 4 top brand match tyres etc.

The only thing that concerns me is the seller is ebay based, and usually sells 5-20k cars - pics look from a public (not residential) road/carpark (but all his cars pictured from the same spot). No website or info about the seller but they usually have 10 or so cars for sale, have been on ebay 10 years and such.
Naturally there are no reviews for actual car purchases I can see as I'd assume the buyers go see them and do direct deals to avoid ebay fee's.
I just question why they don't use autotrader, PH or other selling places, have a little website or such.

I should just select based on the car itself and not the the seller right? I'm one of those people who usually prefers to buy private as you can get a feel for the owner, of course every option has pro's and cons.
It's not 1 owner, it's one previous owner
In fact it also says 2 previous owners, excluding the current owner in the "items specific" section.

mrdanbartlett

Original Poster:

720 posts

245 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Thanks all, 1 previous and this is a trader so 1 in the book I imagine?

The grey is an odd one as they do often look different shades in the pics in terms of panels, I especially noticed this on the boot/wing area.

Agree Brum and mobile is what puts me off but I wasn't sure if that is me over-thinking it.

I'd rather buy private but finding one with the spec I want is really challenging - especially at a sensible price (although even this one hasn't sold for 6 weeks). (I'm also generally concerned about prices but there is another topic for that in general chat). Typically once I'd saved up and was ready to make a move it was just as the prices started taking off, so I mentally committed to it about 7 months ago but haven't been able to action on it. I'm loathed to commit more than 35k or so to a car too as got other things to spend out on coming up.

I really appreciate the responses, such a great forum with helpful people. I haven't changed car for almost 6 years now and as this one is a much more expensive purchase I'm more cautions.


JP__FOX

594 posts

263 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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ebay is a cheap place to advertise... I've just put my M4 on autotrader and it cost me £85! eek

ads_4116

151 posts

115 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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A lot of dealers have pulled out of advertising with Autotrader as they keep hiking their pricing massively each year, hence quite a few dealers are using other portals to advertise such as eBay etc.

ads_4116

151 posts

115 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Just re read the replies on the thread.

Brum and mobile only - run away, fast.

There are certain locations which seem to have a really bad reputation for awful cars, or cut and shuts, bad repairs, clones etc. In my experience, Brum is in the top 2.

CarCrazyDad

4,280 posts

63 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Usual warnings from Birmingham aside, advert looks good, seller profile seems fine?

Go view the car and run a vcheck.uk check on it, check numbers / vin.

vikingaero

13,071 posts

197 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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If you click on his feedback, he doesn't have enough sales for sales feedback:

"This information will be available when this member receives at least 10 detailed seller ratings."

He has plenty of feedback as a buyer and most of these seem to be for motor parts. My gut feeling is that you turn up and he doesn't tell you, or he doesn't tell you until late in the transaction that the car is Cat S or something.

sandman77

3,328 posts

166 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Start by asking for the registration number then you can do your own checks on the car. If he doesn’t disclose it then move on. At that price and from a non main dealer I would be getting a PPI done.

dmsims

7,434 posts

295 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Wonder if it was a hire car........

Richard-390a0

3,456 posts

119 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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I second the get the details & vcheck it responses!

ingenieur

4,643 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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I dunno what this price is like, if it's low or high. But if it's low and turns out to be a write-off of some description then it'll always be a cheap car if it is cheap now. That can work in your favour if it generally checks out upon inspection. If you aren't sure how to satisfactorily inspect a car you can get the AA / RAC to come and look at it. If it is somehow compromised when you sell it you'll have to sell it cheaply, but that only works if it's cheap to buy in the first place. You can tell any future buyer you had it AA inspected when you bought it.

Thing to do in these situations is not to worry about the seller and just to concentrate on the condition of the car itself. There are so many checks which can be done these days that the bad old days of cut-n-shut Escorts splitting in half on a roundabout are really long in the past.

mrdanbartlett

Original Poster:

720 posts

245 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Thanks all, I'd certainly do a HPI check and a inspection is a good idea (assuming these AA/RAC ones are good). I'm in 2 minds still, I can go view the car but its a 5+ hour round trip plus time taken when there, and finding an entire free day is quite challenging for me.

Trevor555

5,366 posts

112 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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A REALLY dodgy seller wouldn't have had the same account on Ebay for 10 years and still be selling cars?

The truth is you'll only know if it's a decent car by going to have a look.

Let us know how you get on.