Warship: life at sea
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The production of it is awful, making every little thing a drama. Some peculiar mod responses too.
Last episode harking on about a "state of the art Russian destroyer" aka a ship in its 42nd year of operation
Conducting a show of force against said destroyer using raf typhoons.. The same raf typhoons that don't currently have any anti ship missiles. I'm sure the Russians enjoyed the air show, but the concept of it deterring them? Not so much
The severing of the towed array sonar was an interesting event to have captured. I didn't realise only some 23s have them fitted.
Last episode harking on about a "state of the art Russian destroyer" aka a ship in its 42nd year of operation
Conducting a show of force against said destroyer using raf typhoons.. The same raf typhoons that don't currently have any anti ship missiles. I'm sure the Russians enjoyed the air show, but the concept of it deterring them? Not so much
The severing of the towed array sonar was an interesting event to have captured. I didn't realise only some 23s have them fitted.
Been watching this also and it is pretty hammed up, TV companies like to create drama. although the captain saying I think we've scared off the Russian ship was a bit cringe, I don't think you have mate.
Also when the helicopter went past they got excited at the russians throwing things overboard, suggesting it could be listening devices, could it not be bags of rubbish and they are just dicking with you as they can see your helicopter with massive cameras on it?
Good and interesting programme though.
Also when the helicopter went past they got excited at the russians throwing things overboard, suggesting it could be listening devices, could it not be bags of rubbish and they are just dicking with you as they can see your helicopter with massive cameras on it?
Good and interesting programme though.
shouldbworking said:
The production of it is awful, making every little thing a drama. Some peculiar mod responses too.
Last episode harking on about a "state of the art Russian destroyer" aka a ship in its 42nd year of operation
Conducting a show of force against said destroyer using raf typhoons.. The same raf typhoons that don't currently have any anti ship missiles. I'm sure the Russians enjoyed the air show, but the concept of it deterring them? Not so much
The severing of the towed array sonar was an interesting event to have captured. I didn't realise only some 23s have them fitted.
Pretty sure that the Typhoons could have had a choice of using Paveway LGBs or if they really wanted to make a point then Storm Shadow would do nicely. That's not a bad deterrent in my mindLast episode harking on about a "state of the art Russian destroyer" aka a ship in its 42nd year of operation
Conducting a show of force against said destroyer using raf typhoons.. The same raf typhoons that don't currently have any anti ship missiles. I'm sure the Russians enjoyed the air show, but the concept of it deterring them? Not so much
The severing of the towed array sonar was an interesting event to have captured. I didn't realise only some 23s have them fitted.
Madness60 said:
Pretty sure that the Typhoons could have had a choice of using Paveway LGBs or if they really wanted to make a point then Storm Shadow would do nicely. That's not a bad deterrent in my mind
Storm shadow can only hit static targets, and bombs require you to go into range of both the ships sams and possibly its ciws too. Hence a strange choice with the 23 and submarines presenting far greater threat. Maybe the raf were feeling left out and wanted in on the marketing the series is giving!
MXRod said:
shouldbworking said:
Last episode harking on about a "state of the art Russian destroyer" aka a ship in its 42nd year of operation
It is highly likely the tech on the ship is not 42 years old , and is in fact "state of the art "My guess is that it's more advanced than a T23. Not sure if I'd call it State of the Art though....
Well, I enjoyed it, not as much as the last series, but still very good.
My understanding is that we play these 'silly games' with Russia all the time, they send Ships and Aircraft to dick about near our border, we send ships and aircraft to rattle the sabre next to them and they bugger off again.
My understanding is that we play these 'silly games' with Russia all the time, they send Ships and Aircraft to dick about near our border, we send ships and aircraft to rattle the sabre next to them and they bugger off again.
I've been watching this too, as someone who's worked in tri-service logistics in the past; there are a few bits that look really ropey. Firstly, losing a single board in a vital situational awareness system seems a little like a single point of failure - if these things go pop, then at least one or two spares readily at hand would make sense, no?
Similarly, the ships maneuvering capability all on the same electrical bus seems like asking for trouble, haven't they heard of independent circuits?
Then there was the 'heavy seas' debacle. The primary offensive weapon, apart from the anti-ship missile system (OSD 2023), isn't weather-proof for high sea states?
Finally, the ASW capability - in this case the Merlin (in lieu of any fixed wing maritime capability). Given that this was supposed to be a 4 month ASW tasking, you'd think that they'd carry more than one sorties worth of sonar buoys on board, bearing in mind that they did perform RAS with an RFA ship anyway.
How much is exaggerated for dramatic purposes, versus reality remains to be (un)seen. I'm sure some Matelots will be along shortly to correct me.
Similarly, the ships maneuvering capability all on the same electrical bus seems like asking for trouble, haven't they heard of independent circuits?
Then there was the 'heavy seas' debacle. The primary offensive weapon, apart from the anti-ship missile system (OSD 2023), isn't weather-proof for high sea states?
Finally, the ASW capability - in this case the Merlin (in lieu of any fixed wing maritime capability). Given that this was supposed to be a 4 month ASW tasking, you'd think that they'd carry more than one sorties worth of sonar buoys on board, bearing in mind that they did perform RAS with an RFA ship anyway.
How much is exaggerated for dramatic purposes, versus reality remains to be (un)seen. I'm sure some Matelots will be along shortly to correct me.
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