New DPF rule

[NMNeil]

If any PH members have removed or bypassed the DPF on their diesel cars or vans, now might be a good time to find a new or used replacement before they get really expensive due to supply and demand.
https://barrysheerman.co.uk/

[Mr Whippy]

360 miles = 576,000m
x 3 = 1,728,000m
/ 6 = 288,000 cars


DPF certainly would seem to be critical to cleaning up exhaust particulates.

I wonder what the particulates are like down-wind of Heathrow, and other large urban airports.


This will self resolve in a decade any way so not sure what the big issue is.

Most of the cars that had early DPF you’d see removed due to faults/issues are becoming rarer and rarer in my experience.

And MOT should be checking for missing parts of emissions control systems?



Plus, hand wringing over cancer etc… rules to protect us etc…

How about banning smoking and refined sugars and all the stuff making people really unwell and leading to cancers?

[Ice_blue_tvr]

What about the particulate levels on the London underground?

[gazza285]

How that idiot keeps being voted in I don't know, other than tribalism. I doubt he even knows where Huddersfield is.

[MG CHRIS]

The mot diesel emission test needs updating big time also under mot rules even if we suspect dpf been cut out or gutted but can't see it we have to pass it.
As a tech and MOT tester I support this rule.

[monkfish1]

Ice_blue_tvr said:

What about the particulate levels on the London underground?

I suppose you could close it. Im sure that will work out well.

[gazza285]

How that idiot keeps being voted in I don't know, other than tribalism. I doubt he even knows where Huddersfield is.

[emicen]

MG CHRIS said:

The mot diesel emission test needs updating big time also under mot rules even if we suspect dpf been cut out or gutted but can't see it we have to pass it.
As a tech and MOT tester I support this rule.

Indeed. Anyone who thinks this is hand wringing, or anything similarly dismissive, wants to try being on a bike when some fud in a DPF deleted VW comes smoking past “rolling coal.”

[NMNeil]

Ice_blue_tvr said:

What about the particulate levels on the London underground?

When I lived in London the underground was electric. When did they move to diesels?

[NMNeil]

gazza285 said:

How that idiot keeps being voted in I don't know, other than tribalism. I doubt he even knows where Huddersfield is.

So someone who want's to stop exhaust emissions poisoning your air is an idiot?

[NMNeil]

emicen said:

Indeed. Anyone who thinks this is hand wringing, or anything similarly dismissive, wants to try being on a bike when some fud in a DPF deleted VW comes smoking past “rolling coal.”

You mean like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62B_w7gWjsw

[Ice_blue_tvr]

NMNeil said:

Ice_blue_tvr said:

What about the particulate levels on the London underground?

When I lived in London the underground was electric. When did they move to diesels?

It's pretty smoggy down there from all the brake dust, dirt and whatever else is down there. The smog is visible when looking down the platform at certain stations. It's actually a serious health concern. Its ironic that people are forced off the roads with ulez zones and encouraged into the toxic, poorly ventilated, particulate filled air underground.

https://www.ft.com/content/6f381ad4-fef7-11e9-be59...

Diesel cars with cut out dpfs are surely now a tiny minority that if public health really is a concern there are tangible things that can be done like banning smoking.

Like someone said, the problem is solving itself as electric cars become more accessible. But once they become mainstream the tax machine will put them under the microscope and nit pick the absolute minutae in order to show the public they are now the new health concern.

Edited by Ice_blue_tvr on Thursday 10th February 19:49

Edited by Ice_blue_tvr on Thursday 10th February 20:22

[mwstewart]

NMNeil said:

When I lived in London the underground was electric. When did they move to diesels?

The motors in a lot of the rolling stock use carbon brushes. You can see clouds of the stuff in the air on some days.

[Slaav]

NMNeil said:

Ice_blue_tvr said:

What about the particulate levels on the London underground?

When I lived in London the underground was electric. When did they move to diesels?

Anybody who doubts how filthy the Underground is in London only needs to make ONE tube journey (especially the deep lines) and blow your nose afterwards! ONE JOURNEY.

I’ve no idea how the filth and particulates in the air compare to traffic particulates but…..

[Ivan stewart]

MG CHRIS said:

The mot diesel emission test needs updating big time also under mot rules even if we suspect dpf been cut out or gutted but can't see it we have to pass it.
As a tech and MOT tester I support this rule.

Wondering how so many petrol cars are obviously lacking a cat but are moted ?

[gazza285]

NMNeil said:

gazza285 said:

How that idiot keeps being voted in I don't know, other than tribalism. I doubt he even knows where Huddersfield is.

So someone who want's to stop exhaust emissions poisoning your air is an idiot?

The two points are non mutually exclusive. Stop extrapolating.

[Lexington59]

Jesus Christ, these fecking eco nutters are out of control.

[MG CHRIS]

Ivan stewart said:

MG CHRIS said:

The mot diesel emission test needs updating big time also under mot rules even if we suspect dpf been cut out or gutted but can't see it we have to pass it.
As a tech and MOT tester I support this rule.

Wondering how so many petrol cars are obviously lacking a cat but are moted ?

Either fitted for test then removed or a £50 to the tester too look the other way.

[Mr Whippy]

emicen said:

MG CHRIS said:

The mot diesel emission test needs updating big time also under mot rules even if we suspect dpf been cut out or gutted but can't see it we have to pass it.
As a tech and MOT tester I support this rule.

Indeed. Anyone who thinks this is hand wringing, or anything similarly dismissive, wants to try being on a bike when some fud in a DPF deleted VW comes smoking past “rolling coal.”

You realise the smoke and the particulates are two different things?

You can get smoke and have DPF still working.

[NMNeil]

mwstewart said:

NMNeil said:

When I lived in London the underground was electric. When did they move to diesels?

The motors in a lot of the rolling stock use carbon brushes. You can see clouds of the stuff in the air on some days.

I can still smell the ozone