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Back again and just after your expert views again as usual.The other day I took the beast out in the rain and wind,obviously didn't take the car above 2000 revs until hit 70 degrees,BUT,the bloody car didn't get above 70 degrees after 80 minutes of driving like a pansy.So what I need to know is,with it hovering about 65-68 degrees can I then still tonk it like I would if it had gone past 70,bearing in mind that the engine was completely warmed up it was just the oil temp that just wouldn't go those extra few degrees.
Many thanks as always Greg
How on earth is it going to get to 70 Deg when you don't take it over 2000rpm?
As a rough rule I don't go over 3000 'till 40, 4000 'till 50 and from 60 onwards, away you go.......
Bear in mind these are only part load - nowhere near full throttle.
The occasional 'blip' (>=4000rpm) on part throttle below 50 Deg can't hurt that much!
The engines aren't that fragile for gawds sake!
As a rough rule I don't go over 3000 'till 40, 4000 'till 50 and from 60 onwards, away you go.......
Bear in mind these are only part load - nowhere near full throttle.
The occasional 'blip' (>=4000rpm) on part throttle below 50 Deg can't hurt that much!
The engines aren't that fragile for gawds sake!
nelly1 said:
How on earth is it going to get to 70 Deg when you don't take it over 2000rpm?
As a rough rule I don't go over 3000 'till 40, 4000 'till 50 and from 60 onwards, away you go.......
Bear in mind these are only part load - nowhere near full throttle.
The occasional 'blip' (>=4000rpm) on part throttle below 50 Deg can't hurt that much!
The engines aren't that fragile for gawds sake!
You say that but that is what the person I bought it from said he always did,and also what I have also learned reading up on these engines for 6 months before buying one.The last thing I need is to bugger up the engine after having so much fun driving one.
As you wish......BUT....
...have a search on here though, and you won't have too much difficulty finding something along the lines of "....warmed up religiously and it still went bang!".
By all means take it easy when warming her up, but not that easy IMHO.
As long as it's not THRASHED from cold, you should be OK.
Don't take too much fun out of owning a SP6
...have a search on here though, and you won't have too much difficulty finding something along the lines of "....warmed up religiously and it still went bang!".
By all means take it easy when warming her up, but not that easy IMHO.
As long as it's not THRASHED from cold, you should be OK.
Don't take too much fun out of owning a SP6
nelly1 said:
As you wish......BUT....
...have a search on here though, and you won't have too much difficulty finding something along the lines of "....warmed up religiously and it still went bang!".
By all means take it easy when warming her up, but not that easy IMHO.
As long as it's not THRASHED from cold, you should be OK.
Don't take too much fun out of owning a SP6
Cheers nelly for info,but if my p&j does go bang I have not got spare 000's to fix her,so only doing all I know and have read to try and preserve the sp6 for as long as possible.Had rebuild at 14000,done 18000 now not by me only had 1 month,best month of my life though and hoping for many more,so just trying to do what I have read and learned and keep this baby going like the wind.Love the car,and hope she will go forever,BUT even with past 03 rebuild,still can't get problems of engine out of my head.
Be good to get some other feedback from other tuscan owners,
cheers again as always Greg.
Have to say I tend to agree with nelly - mine is 2003 Mk1 from dealer, I tend to keep it below 2k revs until 60 degrees on oil and then use that as the measure to use a little more gradual right foot! As you say - if its cold and you are doing commuter driving it probably won't go past 65 odd degrees anyway!
Following recent chats with TVR they still stand by the fact that the engine design for 2005 Sp6 has not changed since introduction - cold abuse and a batch of chocolate followersin 2000 - 2001 allegedly to blame for engine failures!!
Enjoy driving and try and get a good warranty!
Following recent chats with TVR they still stand by the fact that the engine design for 2005 Sp6 has not changed since introduction - cold abuse and a batch of chocolate followersin 2000 - 2001 allegedly to blame for engine failures!!
Enjoy driving and try and get a good warranty!
Have to say I tend to agree with nelly - mine is 2003 Mk1 from dealer, I tend to keep it below 2k revs until 60 degrees on oil and then use that as the measure to use a little more gradual right foot! As you say - if its cold and you are doing commuter driving it probably won't go past 65 odd degrees anyway!
Following recent chats with TVR they still stand by the fact that the engine design for 2005 Sp6 has not changed since introduction - cold abuse and a batch of chocolate followersin 2000 - 2001 allegedly to blame for engine failures!!
Enjoy driving and try and get a good warranty!
Following recent chats with TVR they still stand by the fact that the engine design for 2005 Sp6 has not changed since introduction - cold abuse and a batch of chocolate followersin 2000 - 2001 allegedly to blame for engine failures!!
Enjoy driving and try and get a good warranty!
That's interesting. I had a similar conversation with TVR about a year ago, sat in their reception in Blackpool. I too was told that there have been no changes to the S6 internals and design at all, therefore there is no such thing as a "2004 spec rebuild" etc. It was all same as the original.
In the absence of any other evidence from any other authority, I have no one else at this moment to believe. (The internet is unregulated and full of free speech with as much duff information as correct!). Therefore life goes on and I too subscribe to the original warm up recommendations given by John Ravenscroft.
To run at 70C though does sound very cool. So cool infact, I would be wondering whether the temperature sensor has gone a bit AWOL, but the engine is in fact upto the normal 90ishC (water temp) that would be expected.
In the absence of any other evidence from any other authority, I have no one else at this moment to believe. (The internet is unregulated and full of free speech with as much duff information as correct!). Therefore life goes on and I too subscribe to the original warm up recommendations given by John Ravenscroft.
To run at 70C though does sound very cool. So cool infact, I would be wondering whether the temperature sensor has gone a bit AWOL, but the engine is in fact upto the normal 90ishC (water temp) that would be expected.
To clarify my post...yes, absolutely. Oil temperature is the one to watch when "getting the engine to temperature". Over 60C and the engine is deemed to be warm. Water temperature would be in range from high 80s to low 90s. An idling engine on a hot day should see the fans cutting in to keep the temp from getting to high 90s.
nelly1 said:
As you wish......BUT....
...have a search on here though, and you won't have too much difficulty finding something along the lines of "....warmed up religiously and it still went bang!".
By all means take it easy when warming her up, but not that easy IMHO.
As long as it's not THRASHED from cold, you should be OK.
Don't take too much fun out of owning a SP6
Blimey...that didn't take too long......www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=197620&f=5&h=0
Mustang Baz said:
Not trying to take the fun out of the experience in my post!!
Merely trying to ensure people are really prepared for the worst if it befalls them. The Tuscan gave me oodles of amazing times, but a £30k car ain't much use to me without an engine!
No p1ss taking at all mate!
I reckon most sp6 owners are prepared for the worst!
Makes you wonder why we all moan so much - it's not as though we weren't expecting it!
Paradoxically, mines got a good engine, but the rest of it ain't much cop at the moment!
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