Kia EV 6 v Tesla Model 3 v BMW iX3
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My company car list has just been updated and the 3 cars above are now available. Here are my key details:
We have a 2 year old son and another on the way in July so we need space for prams etc.
I do 10k-12k miles per year - a couple of days in the office (30 mile round trip) per week and a two-weekly 200 mile journey up north. Weekend miles are generally less than 50 miles at a time
Work car park has free charging points and there's a free public charger 5 mins walk from my house.
Bik costs are between £15-18 per month for all 3.
All insurance, servicing, consumables costs etc are covered by my company.
Which one would you go for and why?
Many thanks!
We have a 2 year old son and another on the way in July so we need space for prams etc.
I do 10k-12k miles per year - a couple of days in the office (30 mile round trip) per week and a two-weekly 200 mile journey up north. Weekend miles are generally less than 50 miles at a time
Work car park has free charging points and there's a free public charger 5 mins walk from my house.
Bik costs are between £15-18 per month for all 3.
All insurance, servicing, consumables costs etc are covered by my company.
Which one would you go for and why?
Many thanks!
davidkellighan said:
My company car list has just been updated and the 3 cars above are now available. Here are my key details:
We have a 2 year old son and another on the way in July so we need space for prams etc.
I do 10k-12k miles per year - a couple of days in the office (30 mile round trip) per week and a two-weekly 200 mile journey up north. Weekend miles are generally less than 50 miles at a time
Work car park has free charging points and there's a free public charger 5 mins walk from my house.
Bik costs are between £15-18 per month for all 3.
All insurance, servicing, consumables costs etc are covered by my company.
Which one would you go for and why?
Many thanks!
Kia. Looks the best, huge dealer network and dealer confidence in their product gets great reviews. We have a 2 year old son and another on the way in July so we need space for prams etc.
I do 10k-12k miles per year - a couple of days in the office (30 mile round trip) per week and a two-weekly 200 mile journey up north. Weekend miles are generally less than 50 miles at a time
Work car park has free charging points and there's a free public charger 5 mins walk from my house.
Bik costs are between £15-18 per month for all 3.
All insurance, servicing, consumables costs etc are covered by my company.
Which one would you go for and why?
Many thanks!
Yeah I will be able to charge at home, although most of the guys in work who already have one mainly get by with the work chargers and the off free one at libraries, park and rides etc.
My mate has the Tesla 3 and it's a great machine, just not practical enough for a family of 4 (and a small dog) I imagine.
Going to see the Kia this weekend hopefully, really like the look of it but keen to see how big the boot is. I had assumed the BMW would have a large boot but it seems this might not be the case.
My mate has the Tesla 3 and it's a great machine, just not practical enough for a family of 4 (and a small dog) I imagine.
Going to see the Kia this weekend hopefully, really like the look of it but keen to see how big the boot is. I had assumed the BMW would have a large boot but it seems this might not be the case.
davidkellighan said:
My company car list has just been updated and the 3 cars above are now available. Here are my key details:
We have a 2 year old son and another on the way in July so we need space for prams etc.
I do 10k-12k miles per year - a couple of days in the office (30 mile round trip) per week and a two-weekly 200 mile journey up north. Weekend miles are generally less than 50 miles at a time
Work car park has free charging points and there's a free public charger 5 mins walk from my house.
Bik costs are between £15-18 per month for all 3.
All insurance, servicing, consumables costs etc are covered by my company.
Which one would you go for and why?
Many thanks!
Have test drive the EV6 and Model 3We have a 2 year old son and another on the way in July so we need space for prams etc.
I do 10k-12k miles per year - a couple of days in the office (30 mile round trip) per week and a two-weekly 200 mile journey up north. Weekend miles are generally less than 50 miles at a time
Work car park has free charging points and there's a free public charger 5 mins walk from my house.
Bik costs are between £15-18 per month for all 3.
All insurance, servicing, consumables costs etc are covered by my company.
Which one would you go for and why?
Many thanks!
just out of these two
EV6 is slightly more comfortable both as driver and passenger, softer suspension than Model 3, more "leg" room under the seat for the back. The rear hatch also more practical
Model 3 is quicker, and certainly sportier to drive than EV6, better equipped on basic trim, super charging network is a plus (coming from my experience of public charging with my i3)
Interior material quality I do not see much difference, not on BMW Sport/M-Sport level
Both EV6 and Model 3 are great EV, it depend what you prefer SUV with more comfort or Saloon with more sportiness
iX3 have a significant high price tag so I never book a test drive
I've just ordered and iX3 after looking at Audi, Tesla, Kia, Hyundai, Ford
If you need to regularly charge away from home then get the Tesla. This is its USP. The charging network is better than the rest.
If you dont and can charge at home then it comes down to the normal buying decisions. Brand, build quality, dealer network, looks, practicality and in that respect the BMW knocks the rest into next week. The quality of materials used inside/outside the car are several levels above Tesla, Kia, Ford. The ride is better. The Tesla is a boot not a hatchback which with a young family will be a compromise. The Model Y solves that but the ride on that car is very firm.
If you need to regularly charge away from home then get the Tesla. This is its USP. The charging network is better than the rest.
If you dont and can charge at home then it comes down to the normal buying decisions. Brand, build quality, dealer network, looks, practicality and in that respect the BMW knocks the rest into next week. The quality of materials used inside/outside the car are several levels above Tesla, Kia, Ford. The ride is better. The Tesla is a boot not a hatchback which with a young family will be a compromise. The Model Y solves that but the ride on that car is very firm.
I had an hour's test drive in 5 EV's effectively back2back over a couple of days before Christmas, best way to work out which works best for you in my opinion.
I would put them in the following order with a caveat that I'd be happy to own the EV6 and MachE, I wouldn't order/own the other three, especially the Q4! -
EV6
MachE
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Ipace
Model3
Q4 etron
Unfortunately I couldn't book a Polestar2 demo at the time, although I've not driven it I have now worked on one and that would also be at the top of the list.
I would put them in the following order with a caveat that I'd be happy to own the EV6 and MachE, I wouldn't order/own the other three, especially the Q4! -
EV6
MachE
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Ipace
Model3
Q4 etron
Unfortunately I couldn't book a Polestar2 demo at the time, although I've not driven it I have now worked on one and that would also be at the top of the list.
Last week we took an EV6 for a test drive. First time in an electric car for either of us. It was the top of the range GT Line S but with the smaller of the two power outputs, so RWD rather than the AWD.
When the dealer brought it round to the front I thought it had lost its wheel arch trims - it looks a little unusual in that area, maybe less so in a different colour? This was red.
Thoughts:
The instant torque is quite surprising coming from a life of petrol/diesel.
Quiet, comfortable ride, though you can feel the weight in the corners (even in non-PH style cornering).
Head up display was far better then I’d imagined, unintrusive, felt natural after a few minutes.
The blind spot views in the binnacle when indicating are excellent. Makes parking next to the kerb without clipping the alloys a doddle.
The ‘Lane keep’ system was an interesting experience - it even drifted us to the outside of our lane, away from a truck we were slowly passing.
MrsH loved it and wants one. I think it’s a ‘worthy’ family vehicle but, with the current pace of electric development, in a year’s time will I be wishing I’d held off? I’d prefer a 500+ range as I’m expecting we’ll soon see longer queues for chargers at service stations. However, it’s mainly MrsH who’ll drive it so I guess we’ll be ordering one soon - quoted August delivery.
When the dealer brought it round to the front I thought it had lost its wheel arch trims - it looks a little unusual in that area, maybe less so in a different colour? This was red.
Thoughts:
The instant torque is quite surprising coming from a life of petrol/diesel.
Quiet, comfortable ride, though you can feel the weight in the corners (even in non-PH style cornering).
Head up display was far better then I’d imagined, unintrusive, felt natural after a few minutes.
The blind spot views in the binnacle when indicating are excellent. Makes parking next to the kerb without clipping the alloys a doddle.
The ‘Lane keep’ system was an interesting experience - it even drifted us to the outside of our lane, away from a truck we were slowly passing.
MrsH loved it and wants one. I think it’s a ‘worthy’ family vehicle but, with the current pace of electric development, in a year’s time will I be wishing I’d held off? I’d prefer a 500+ range as I’m expecting we’ll soon see longer queues for chargers at service stations. However, it’s mainly MrsH who’ll drive it so I guess we’ll be ordering one soon - quoted August delivery.
Thanks everyone. Going to see the EV6 this afternoon. Had a sit in the IX3 but the seat bolster bits were digging into my kidneys - so uncomfortable. The boot wasn't as big as I'd hoped for either.
A colleague has a Polestar 2 and it turns out that's on theist as well. Had a shot in it and absolute loved it. Very comfortable, a lot of technology and so good to drive. Only thing letting it down is a slightly smaller boot.
The August delivery for the EV6 might be an issue, keen to get something sooner than that. We'll see what the dealer says this afternoon. I'll feedback here after I've been.
Any reason why I shouldn't be considering the Q4 Etron as that's on the list as well. Most of the reviews I've read and people I've spoken with seem to suggest it isn't in the same class as the polestar/Tesla/Kia.
A colleague has a Polestar 2 and it turns out that's on theist as well. Had a shot in it and absolute loved it. Very comfortable, a lot of technology and so good to drive. Only thing letting it down is a slightly smaller boot.
The August delivery for the EV6 might be an issue, keen to get something sooner than that. We'll see what the dealer says this afternoon. I'll feedback here after I've been.
Any reason why I shouldn't be considering the Q4 Etron as that's on the list as well. Most of the reviews I've read and people I've spoken with seem to suggest it isn't in the same class as the polestar/Tesla/Kia.
So I had a test drive in the EV6 yesterday:
Pros
Great looking car. Very well designed without looking too flashy
Practical boot - able to get our buggy in lengthways leaving plenty of room for all the other family gubbins
Lots of space in the rear - should be very handy for getting two car seats in/out
Great infotainment system (I was testing the GT-Line S version)
Loads of space and compartments up front for phones, bottles of water etc.
Blind spot assistance camera was brilliant
360 parking camera also really helpful
Good to drive, firm enough through the corners but not too bumpy
Cons
The seat felt a little . . . odd. I struggled to get comfortable right away. My two previous cars have been a V90 then an XF before that so I've probably been spoiled a bit. It wasn't uncomfortable like the IX3 was, but it was sort of odd. Might just take a bit of getting used to.
Even at the lowest seat setting my head was touching the roof. I'm 6'2" so not overly massive, again though it might just take a bit of getting used to.
Rear visibility is quite poor. This is helped though with the reversing cameras and blind spot assistance
The car was quick enough, but not rapid like the Polestar was. This was the RWD version I was trying though and I would be going for the AWD which is a bit quicker.
The dealer said to expect august delivery dependent on spec etc. As things stand it's between this and the Polestar. I'm going to see the Audi later this week but the dealer hinted at 15 month lead times!!
I'll report back once I've seen it though, thanks for your comments so far.
Pros
Great looking car. Very well designed without looking too flashy
Practical boot - able to get our buggy in lengthways leaving plenty of room for all the other family gubbins
Lots of space in the rear - should be very handy for getting two car seats in/out
Great infotainment system (I was testing the GT-Line S version)
Loads of space and compartments up front for phones, bottles of water etc.
Blind spot assistance camera was brilliant
360 parking camera also really helpful
Good to drive, firm enough through the corners but not too bumpy
Cons
The seat felt a little . . . odd. I struggled to get comfortable right away. My two previous cars have been a V90 then an XF before that so I've probably been spoiled a bit. It wasn't uncomfortable like the IX3 was, but it was sort of odd. Might just take a bit of getting used to.
Even at the lowest seat setting my head was touching the roof. I'm 6'2" so not overly massive, again though it might just take a bit of getting used to.
Rear visibility is quite poor. This is helped though with the reversing cameras and blind spot assistance
The car was quick enough, but not rapid like the Polestar was. This was the RWD version I was trying though and I would be going for the AWD which is a bit quicker.
The dealer said to expect august delivery dependent on spec etc. As things stand it's between this and the Polestar. I'm going to see the Audi later this week but the dealer hinted at 15 month lead times!!
I'll report back once I've seen it though, thanks for your comments so far.
the_kilo_1984 said:
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Cons
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Even at the lowest seat setting my head was touching the roof. I'm 6'2" so not overly massive, again though it might just take a bit of getting used to.
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I had the same issue at 6' 3". I sat in a GT Line without the panoramic roof and I fitted. It still felt "cosy", but no impact with the header rail when moving my head about to check blind spots etc. Cons
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Even at the lowest seat setting my head was touching the roof. I'm 6'2" so not overly massive, again though it might just take a bit of getting used to.
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Have you tried the Ioniq 5? That's like a spacious living room on the inside!
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