Griffith is a cruiser?

Griffith is a cruiser?

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NicBowman

Original Poster:

785 posts

252 months

Friday 11th February 2022
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Hi all

Looking for discussion, slightly contentious. Having had 6 TVRs over 40 years, plus racing cars and motorbikes as long. Should we acknowledge that a Griff is now a classic for driving slowly and sounding nice? I see lots of posts on performance, but, we should acknowledge that the Griff is old tech and the best use is to enjoy classic status, cruise and make a nice noise! If you want to go fast get a modern car. My wife’s Peugeot 208 is much faster cross country, drives like it is on rails!

So, surely we,should be focusing on how to make a Griff drive smoothly at low revs and handle safely, not on cams for power at top end?

Ready for lively discussion!

Best


Nic
Yr 2000 Griff 500 in Rolex Blue.

Mr.Grooler

1,204 posts

239 months

Friday 11th February 2022
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Classic, fairly comfortable, great noise, and quick but still slow enough to be comprehensively beaten down a windy road or round a track by most modern hot hatches - all true! Still a sports car in my book, just one that is 30 years old in manufacture, arguably older in design, and needs to be considered in that context.

Here’s a related question - if you could press a magic button and your Griff suddenly transforms to have a modern feeling chassis with grip and brakes to match, would you? I don’t think I would, as much as I enjoy modern sports cars it’d just feel odd!

NicBowman

Original Poster:

785 posts

252 months

Friday 11th February 2022
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I agree, what I like is as you accelerate out of a corner you can feel the chassis flex and rear end struggle to grip, even my partner notices from the passenger seat. Not the safest feeling, but exciting!

Nic

Oldwolf

988 posts

207 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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Assume you don't mind Chim owners joining the conversation smile

I bought mine because it's analogue, if I'd bought some modern fast car I'd most likely drive it fast everywhere but a TVR is something to savour. It's great to cruise in with that V8 noise and when you want to play it's fast enough that you have to pay attention.

Wouldn't swap mine for any modern car.

Just waiting for them to stop gritting the roads

R8FUN

281 posts

217 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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My Civic FK8 would run rings around my Griff on a twisty road, but thats not the point. Its how it makes you feel.

NicBowman

Original Poster:

785 posts

252 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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Agreed. My wife’s previous car was a bmw M140i. Went like poop off a shovel. But, made you feel like a hooligan and constantly harassed by other hot hatches for drag races. TVR, go steady, because there’s nothing to prove, it can go fast, but no need to demonstrate!

Nic

Boosted LS1

21,199 posts

274 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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You aren't driving fast enough if it feels like it's on rails.

Monkeylegend

27,651 posts

245 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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I remember getting tailed by a diesel Golf in my Griff 500 down the twisty back road to our village, he was there with me all the way paperbag

Maybe I wasn't trying hard enough but I handed in my TVR badge of honour that day and reverted to relaxed but noisy cruising so I would never have to live down the shame ever again.

hoofa

3,151 posts

222 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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Sounds like the griff forum is up to its let’s fit a smooth bore elbow, wooden steering wheel plus Union Jack cushion upgrades for cruising smile

Edited by hoofa on Saturday 12th February 19:43

e42

207 posts

202 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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Absolutely agree, lots of cheap faster modern cars if it’s about getting from a to b quicker, I’m in my 5th TVR for the looks, the sound and the experience. As the saying goes it’s not about how fast you go, but how you go (quite) fast!

Belle427

10,457 posts

247 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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I think you have to get away from the fact they are not going to compete with modern machinery and just enjoy the event they are to drive.

rigga

8,775 posts

215 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Agree with the above, its an event car, from the moment it fires up, not at all like a modern car, in fact very dated ......but I enjoy every slow mile I do.

sixor8

6,937 posts

282 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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It's still a fast car, if only in a straight line. smile Still has the ability to surprise some.

When posts mention more modern machinery, I presume they mean VERY modern. I haven't noticed many cars at £20k or less that do 0-60 in 4.1s ?? WRX or EVO import cars maybe but they aren't modern, or hatches. A Golf R was faster than my 4.0 litre Chimaera I found out frown , but not a Griff.... scratchchin

andysgriff

913 posts

274 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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They have always been a better cruiser. I would say they are quick but not fast. Things have moved on a lot, gorgeous cars but more suited to lazy cruising imho.

SFTWend

1,162 posts

89 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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I find my Griff to be fun at any speed. It's great to be able to drive something that doesn't need to be going at silly speeds to be exciting.

I've not had the urge or confidence to find its limits on the road as it's too precious to risk losing it. So yes, I mostly settle into the comfy seat and bumble along, interspersed with some leg stretching in 2nd and 3rd on the straights.

lancelin

239 posts

135 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Yer, it’s all about nostalgia and having to put the effort in to drive it. One could argue modern cars are too easy to drive - less skill required. Being able to fix the car myself is a great bonus.

NicBowman

Original Poster:

785 posts

252 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Hi, yes, give me a wooden steering wheel any day! To be honest, going fast on the road is a losing battle, too many cars, too many policemen (well, cameras). So, slow and nice noise good option.

To sound briefly like an old git, had my first TVR in 1980, a 1976 3000M in silver. Tall tires, plenty of torque. You could tail slide on demand, long before top gear! Every mini roundabout was used for 2nd gear tail slides. Even in towns! Never got stopped. Those were the days…

Nic

mk1fan

10,734 posts

239 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Plenty of info on here and the various FB groups as well as other online sites on getting the TVR RV8 to run and pull smoothly from idle.

Indeed, I would say most TVR owners who decide to 'tune' go down the smooth, pull evenly throughout the revs route rather than creating a screaming monster that only works north of 4000rpm (not that there aren't those that do want this).

I also think this is true when it comes to chassis set up too. Most go for comfort / fast road rather than fast road / performance.

You just have to see how many 'refuse' to do trackdays against how popular mini tours in the UK (or further) are.

I suspect the OP is starting to realise what most already know. Whilst it can be ferocious, the Griffith (and other TVRs) are only as fast as you [want to] push the loud pedal biggrin

TVRnutcase

161 posts

244 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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The Griffith will still hold off most hot hatches - provided your balls are bigger than the other guys.

The joy of the V8 is that low down lugging pulling power and the seamless rush all the way to the Red Line.

Coupled with it can be a lazy cruiser - very easy cars to drive.

Loubaruch

1,320 posts

212 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Many years ago Harry Metcalf of EVO fame sold his Griffith and penned a farewell video review, his conclusion being that the Griffith was a desirable fast cruiser. The video appears to have been taken down but worth a look if anyone can find it.