Anti submarine plane goes supersonic
Anti submarine plane goes supersonic
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Shambler

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1,218 posts

167 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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Simpo Two

91,323 posts

288 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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So basically 'aeroplane flies across the country'. Edge of the seat stuff indeed. Next week, reports of a car on the M1.

DrDeAtH

3,678 posts

255 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Shambler said:
Apart from the fact that the poseidon doesn't go supersonic...
Top speed is under 500 knots

AlexIT

1,685 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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DrDeAtH said:
Apart from the fact that the poseidon doesn't go supersonic...
Top speed is under 500 knots
I still think that there would be more chances of this happening than to track a submarine in the Highlands. getmecoat

aeropilot

39,711 posts

250 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Shambler said:
It just highlights the low levels of intelligence and total uninterest in actually reporting facts that is the modern media. It doesn't take even 10mins to search before hitting send, but, that's not the way.

Proof that you really shouldn't believe anything reported by the press as 'fact'.


Mave

8,216 posts

238 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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I like the way "Lancashire, as well as Merseyside, Greater Manchester and Cheshire" is "All across the UK"...

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Reminds me of this gem in Practical Classics, who should know better.


yellowjack

18,110 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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aeropilot said:
Shambler said:
It just highlights the low levels of intelligence and total uninterest in actually reporting facts that is the modern media. It doesn't take even 10mins to search before hitting send, but, that's not the way.

Proof that you really shouldn't believe anything reported by the press as 'fact'.
Aggravated by the photo in the same article showing a Russian (Soviet era) 2S-1 Self Propelled Artillery piece...

Scottish Daily Record caption said:
A Russian tank following joint exercises of the armed forces of Russia and Belarus
...being referred to as a "tank". Journalists just couldn't give a stuff about fact checking and accuracy these days. So long as the average social media Muppet "gets the gist" of a story it's "job done".

Ledaig

1,800 posts

285 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Two in one day and et exactly the same time - what are the chances...

BBC

Simpo Two

91,323 posts

288 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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DrDeAtH said:
Apart from the fact that the poseidon doesn't go supersonic...
Top speed is under 500 knots
How about steep dive and throttles through the gate? nuts

Master Bean

4,919 posts

143 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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yellowjack said:
aeropilot said:
Shambler said:
It just highlights the low levels of intelligence and total uninterest in actually reporting facts that is the modern media. It doesn't take even 10mins to search before hitting send, but, that's not the way.

Proof that you really shouldn't believe anything reported by the press as 'fact'.
Aggravated by the photo in the same article showing a Russian (Soviet era) 2S-1 Self Propelled Artillery piece...

Scottish Daily Record caption said:
A Russian tank following joint exercises of the armed forces of Russia and Belarus
...being referred to as a "tank". Journalists just couldn't give a stuff about fact checking and accuracy these days. So long as the average social media Muppet "gets the gist" of a story it's "job done".
It looks like a tank. It's got tracks and metal sides so it's a tank.

yellowjack

18,110 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Master Bean said:
It looks like a tank. It's got tracks and metal sides so it's a tank.
Believe it's a tank all you want. But if you were to be inside one that got into an engagement with an actual tank, then you'd be in for a VERY painful lesson as to why you really shouldn't judge a book by it's cover...




...because you'd be better protected hiding behind a tin of McVitie's finest chocolate assortment.

ecsrobin

18,521 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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From that angle it looks like a tank for everyone who isn’t ex artillery/tank regiment (or similar) it is a tank.

yellowjack

18,110 posts

189 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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ecsrobin said:
From that angle it looks like a tank for everyone who isn’t ex artillery/tank regiment (or similar) it is a tank.

A supercar! (Red? Check. Two seater? Check. Engine behind the driver? Check.)


An airliner! (Long tube, big engines, goes a long way, pilots up front, a bunch of people not authorised to fly it get to sit in the back)


Air superiority interceptor/fighter! (Those are definitely air-to-air missiles under the wings)

We can do this all day long, but a shrapnel-proof (at best) artillery gun plonked on top of an APC built between 30 and 50 years ago in a Soviet tractor factory, to a 1950s design, is still NOT a tank. And it's not pedantry either. Capability and purpose are vastly different from that of a tank.

"A tank is an armored fighting vehicle intended as a primary offensive weapon in front-line ground combat. Tank designs are a balance of heavy firepower, strong armor, and good battlefield mobility."

"Modern self-propelled artillery vehicles may superficially resemble tanks, but they are generally lightly armoured, too lightly to survive in direct-fire combat."

ecsrobin

18,521 posts

188 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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And breathe……

Krikkit

27,835 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Chill yellowjack - it's a fully covered, tracked vehicle with a very big gun on a rotating turret. To most people that's the same thing as a tank, and much more similar than your sarcastic examples.


tonyvid

9,889 posts

266 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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aeropilot said:
Shambler said:
It just highlights the low levels of intelligence and total uninterest in actually reporting facts that is the modern media. It doesn't take even 10mins to search before hitting send, but, that's not the way.

Proof that you really shouldn't believe anything reported by the press as 'fact'.
A couple of years ago, BBC Look East or ITV Anglia had a reporter at RAF Lakenheath talking about the F-15s and described them as being capable of traveling at over twice the speed of light. Impressive.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

69 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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You have to understand that most journalists are oftne very youing and have no real experience in every area of life, just tiny bits. SO for local papers, expecting them to know the difference between a tank and something else is ridiculous, for the BBC or CNN or Reurters maybe, but not for a local rag that emplys some young kid out of uni on mimimum wage.

It is often up to the peoiple reporting the incidents to fill in the detail.

Ask yourself how many times you are driving, see an incident and remember the car, model, colour, type. Blue Focus RS on a 10 plate

Then ask someone next to you, it was a blue car.

RizzoTheRat

28,081 posts

215 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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ecsrobin said:
From that angle it looks like a tank for everyone who isn’t ex artillery/tank regiment (or similar) it is a tank.
The fact it has a door in the back should make it obvious to anyone who's ever seen a tank that it's not a tank biggrin

That link seems to be dead, so I assume the original story ahs been replaced by this one which does make sense in terms of the aircraft (except the line "The Typhoon Apollo11 fighter jet "), but it does still have Yellowjacks nontank in it.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-son...


What are the "Russian armed forces artillery units" guys playing with in he bottom pic though?

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Thursday 17th February 09:17

aeropilot

39,711 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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LukeBrown66 said:
You have to understand that most journalists are oftne very youing and have no real experience in every area of life, just tiny bits. SO for local papers, expecting them to know the difference between a tank and something else is ridiculous, for the BBC or CNN or Reurters maybe, but not for a local rag that emplys some young kid out of uni on mimimum wage.

It is often up to the peoiple reporting the incidents to fill in the detail.
No, its up to the more experienced and senior journo's that are supposedly training or mentoring them, to train them to do the job.....or the editorial staff checking their work, as it used to be, but, no one wants to train people these days......its not neccessary in their view and the accountants that run companies don't want to spend money on training.
Its not just journalism, its everywhere across all industries and professions.