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bigandclever

14,191 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Personally, I’m a ‘jam today’ kind of chap, but I’m also at the stage of my working life that enjoying it is more important than the pay packet (up to a point, I’ve still got bills smile ). So which one excites you?

StuTheGrouch

5,888 posts

184 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Jam tomorrow....

Which place seems to be the better place to work and/or offers better opportunities beyond this initial appointment?

67Dino

3,639 posts

127 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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I’ve never heard of this being done this way before and don’t trust it at all. In particular the large gap in salary sounds very suspect to me.

If they were really hiring for the manager job they would hire for it and pay accordingly. The only reason to do this ridiculous 6 month thing at a lower salary is to avoid doing it or at least paying full whack when they do.

If you go this route get it in writing as a legal commitment. Anything less is a 35k job in my view.

mr_spock

3,370 posts

237 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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If the second one is through an agency they may be trying to reduce fees. Take the one that knows what they want without messing about. Second one will never come through.

craigjm

20,363 posts

222 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Option two sounds odd that you would get a 50% pay rise at 6 months. I would want that all in writing and my choice would be based on what I was earning now. You don’t say whether the lower pay is less or more than you are earning now

Flooble

5,729 posts

122 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Take Option 1

Never trust, even with a contract in your hand. There's always "business needs have changed" or, worse, "we'd like to offer you xxx instead".


Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,029 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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49k/12 = 4083 gross per month
35/12 = 2916 x6 plus 52/12= 4333 totals, 43494 in your first year.

so you'd be 6k down after 12 months.

And let's assume you might get an inflationary pay rise at option 1 at the end of the year.

Fundamentally it'll take you 2.5 years to catch back the salary, At that point you'd probably have moved on and got a bigger pay rise at another place.

The impact of a lower salary, compounds over time, and takes ages to claw back.

However, how you feel about the options is also important as is their future viability and the role itself. But go for the money, you'll be thinking about the better paid (up front) job on the st days in the lower paid one.

Sheets Tabuer

20,936 posts

237 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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In my experience a company saying you'll have this or that in 6 months are full of it, you're either worth that now or not.

I suspect they think once your in you'll be happy with your 35k

deckster

9,631 posts

277 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Sheets Tabuer said:
In my experience a company saying you'll have this or that in 6 months are full of it, you're either worth that now or not.

I suspect they think once your in you'll be happy with your 35k
100% this.

Put the ball in their court - tell company 2 that you have an attractive but non-management offer from another company. You are interested in the management role but it must be from day 1. Otherwise you'll go for the other role.

Largechris

2,019 posts

113 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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deckster said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
In my experience a company saying you'll have this or that in 6 months are full of it, you're either worth that now or not.

I suspect they think once your in you'll be happy with your 35k
100% this.

Put the ball in their court - tell company 2 that you have an attractive but non-management offer from another company. You are interested in the management role but it must be from day 1. Otherwise you'll go for the other role.
Yep, option 1 all day long if there’s no other differences in the job and your enjoyment of it

Although…..


Yep option 1.

peterpan0

29 posts

48 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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ask for a gt3 rs 992 instead of the golf estate


Flooble

5,729 posts

122 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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9244billy said:
Thank you for the good advice,

Currently my package is 42k which includes a 6k car allowance.

The 1st option has now changed there offer.
Originally 45k and a 3k car allowance

New 48k and a company van (new caddy)

2nd option
I discussed the possibility of a salary increase each month which became apparent to be a issue very quickly and I also mentioned my concerns of what would happen at the end of 6 months and I was told legally the position would need to be advertised internally however there is no comp currently
Definitely option 1. That's basically even more money - van on top of the salary and car allowance. While Option 2 have basically admitted their plan - tlel you at the six month mark "sorry, someone else got the job".

StuTheGrouch

5,888 posts

184 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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9244billy said:
Thank you for the good advice,

Currently my package is 42k which includes a 6k car allowance.

The 1st option has now changed there offer.
Originally 45k and a 3k car allowance

New 48k and a company van (new caddy)

2nd option
I discussed the possibility of a salary increase each month which became apparent to be a issue very quickly and I also mentioned my concerns of what would happen at the end of 6 months and I was told legally the position would need to be advertised internally however there is no comp currently
On that basis option 2 isn't even worth considering in my opinion. They sound like a st employer

67Dino

3,639 posts

127 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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peterpan0 said:
ask for a gt3 rs 992 instead of the golf estate
bounce
Yes!

T1547

1,213 posts

156 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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StuTheGrouch said:
On that basis option 2 isn't even worth considering in my opinion. They sound like a st employer
100% - tell them to get stuffed (and hopefully they'll learn to not try and play around with offering half-baked remuneration packages in future).