Car sold with no warranty from dealer.

[Hifly130]

Looking at a Porsche which is advertised with an independent dealer which says, ‘ due to the high mileage and age car is sold without warranty’.

I understand that it obviously won’t come with a warranty but does this mean it’s effectively a private sale so should be priced as such? Also does this mean it’s exempt from Consumer goods act 2015? Will there be any protections whatsoever?

Thanks

[LTEcactus]

No it definitely isn't a private sale if it's been sold by a business.
They can't exempt themselves from the consumer rights act either

[Hugo Stiglitz]

What sort of mileage.

Personally anyone who says that possibly knows something...

Or they are of the mindset of what will occur if you find something wrong under your rights..

Buy elsewhere.

[The Mad Monk]

Hifly130 said:

Looking at a Porsche which is advertised with an independent dealer which says, ‘ due to the high mileage and age car is sold without warranty’.

I understand that it obviously won’t come with a warranty but does this mean it’s effectively a private sale so should be priced as such? Also does this mean it’s exempt from Consumer goods act 2015? Will there be any protections whatsoever?

Thanks

IANAL

The dealer cannot exempt himself from legislation.

The law is the law. If you are covered under the law, then you are covered under the law.

However, if I were you - and I'm not - I would take my money elsewhere, where you have a sporting chance of getting any problems resolved.

DIMTIANAL?

[Hifly130]

It only has about 90k miles.

I did think that it would have to still comply with certain consumer rights and legislation. Certainly the consumer goods act 2015 I’ve used for a mechanical issue on a newish car that wasn’t apparently covered by the dealer warranty.

It is a trader that usually specialises in high end classics but looks as though stock that doesn’t meet it’s standards or need a little work are, ‘sold as seen’. These include cars up to £15k so it’s not like totally trashy cars it wants to get rid on the side. I haven’t spoken to them yet so maybe they might fully explain rights etc so don’t want to right them off as dodgy yet.

[Ouroboros]

Pretty scummy behaviour really.

The dealership can sell the car at auction, yet chooses to sell it to a consumer breaking consumer law.
Why to make more money, would you trust a dealership like this, hell no.

Edited by Ouroboros on Saturday 19th February 11:57

[steveo3002]

my thoughts would be its a scummy seller that knows its faulty and trying dodge any responsibility for the sale

stay away from it

[carreauchompeur]

Yep, avoid. They can’t avoid consumer protection obligations but the fact they are trying to make out that they can suggests it’s dodgy.

[fflump]

Ouroboros said:

Pretty scummy behaviour really.

The dealership can sell the car at auction, yet chooses to sell it to a consumer breaking consumer law.
Why to make more money, would you trust a dealership like this, hell no.

Edited by Ouroboros on Saturday 19th February 11:57

Where is the evidence that they are trying to break the law?
They are simply not offering a warranty which is their prerogative.

[Henz]

Isn't warranty separate to the usual consumer rights? They may not be attempting to waive their legal obligations but not offering above, especially if they usually offer 12 months for their high end stock.

[Sheepshanks]

fflump said:

Where is the evidence that they are trying to break the law?
They are simply not offering a warranty which is their prerogative.

Could it simply be that it's impossible to get a warranty on such a car?

I suppose a larger company would be required to add "your statutory rights are unaffected".


But as a buyer, why get yourself into such a situation? They're unlikely to be keen to keep having the car back for any issues that arise.

[Narcisus]

I once purchased a TVR as sold as seen as it was a great price. It was a risk but the dealer seemed up front and I kept the car for 6 years and loved every day without any major probs.

[Louis Balfour]

Hifly130 said:

Looking at a Porsche which is advertised with an independent dealer which says, ‘ due to the high mileage and age car is sold without warranty’.

I understand that it obviously won’t come with a warranty but does this mean it’s effectively a private sale so should be priced as such? Also does this mean it’s exempt from Consumer goods act 2015? Will there be any protections whatsoever?

Thanks

A dealer is not required to offer a warranty, but the sale will still be covered by the relevant consumer legislation.

[ZX10R NIN]

I don't see the problem the dealer is being upfront saying they don't want to warranty the car, at which point you as the seller accept this & buy the car or you go find another.

Personally I don't see anything dishonest or underhand going on here.

[Wills2]

Used car dealers don't generally offer a warranty (of their own) they just slap an insured warranty on it, just put the reg into one of the many 3rd party warranty websites and see if they will warranty it/what the cost is.

[cayman-black]

PORSCHE i would worry even if it had a warranty!

[SteveR1979]

cayman-black said:

PORSCHE i would worry even if it had a warranty!

Why??
My 996 has been fine

[Deep Thought]

Its my understanding that as a minimum the trader has to warrant the condition of the car, however they dont have to provide a warranty.

[Ouroboros]

Deep Thought said:

Its my understanding that as a minimum the trader has to warrant the condition of the car, however they dont have to provide a warranty.

it is the terminology used, to the average consumer will mean sold as seen, they have just used another term as that wouldnt blatantly illegal.

[Hifly130]

Louis Balfour said:

Hifly130 said:

Looking at a Porsche which is advertised with an independent dealer which says, ‘ due to the high mileage and age car is sold without warranty’.

I understand that it obviously won’t come with a warranty but does this mean it’s effectively a private sale so should be priced as such? Also does this mean it’s exempt from Consumer goods act 2015? Will there be any protections whatsoever?

Thanks

A dealer is not required to offer a warranty, but the sale will still be covered by the relevant consumer legislation.

I take it as this. I don’t mind taking a car especially of that mileage as sometimes the warranty is so restrictive ( like only engine/ gear box max £1000)that it’s almost worthless. However if a week after having it the engine blows due to a fault that was with the car before I purchased it and I have some rights/protections legally then that to me is a bonus over purely a private sale where there is none. Although getting a dealer to except the consumer goods act still applies might be a bit tricky.