Mustang Mach-E: owners' experience of range?

[McAndy]

Hi All. I'm considering a Mach-E for a couple of years time when second hand prices have dipped a bit. I'd love to know of people's experience of real world range, please, both for the Standard and Extended Range models. Thanks!

[Cupramax]

Carwow did a range test on all the mid range stuff last week including the smaller batteried Mustang if you’ve got a spare 45 mins…

https://youtu.be/xg6-Vc9CSwk

[Blib]

I'm test driving one on Monday, just because. I've no intention of buying one just yet.

I'll check in with my Clarksonian observations afterwards.

[McAndy]

Ace, thank you. Was more efficient than I expected!

[Boxbrownie]

To save us watching it, what was the efficiency?

[McAndy]

Boxbrownie said:

To save us watching it, what was the efficiency?

3.7 mi/kWh, joint top with the EV6

[Blib]

Ridiculously windy here in NE Suffolk for today's test drive. I'm expecting a top speed, downwind, of 200mph+. Upwind, not so much.

[Blib]

Just back from the test drive. Our car was emblazoned with a '395 mile range' decal. The salesman backtracked from that rather rapidly. I couldn't get a definite number from him.

Sorry about that.

The car wasn't for us. The acceleration in 'sport' was fun on the A12. But, the ride was far too firm for our needs- thats not the car's fault, it's badged as a Mustang so it should feel sporty. But, I was underwhelmed by the whole experience.

I won't go any further than that. Other to say that we decided to check the back seats out and locked ourselves in, as the child locks were on. Luckily, Mrs B was able to chamber into the front seats - sans shoes - and release me.

[McAndy]

Blib said:

Just back from the test drive. Our car was emblazoned with a '395 mile range' decal. The salesman backtracked from that rather rapidly. I couldn't get a definite number from him.

Sorry about that.

The car wasn't for us. The acceleration in 'sport' was fun on the A12. But, the ride was far too firm for our needs- thats not the car's fault, it's badged as a Mustang so it should feel sporty. But, I was underwhelmed by the whole experience.

I won't go any further than that. Other to say that we decided to check the back seats out and locked ourselves in, as the child locks were on. Luckily, Mrs B was able to chamber into the front seats - sans shoes - and release me.

Sounds like an entertaining afternoon! Making a car salesman sweat, and then being outfoxed by the kiddie-proofing

Good to know ref. the ride. We're torn between EV6 (wife likes the look, but not the airiest cabin and there seem to be some teething tech issues), Ioniq 5 (wife doesn't like outside, but likes living-room like interior space), and Mustang (no experience of yet to date). Enyaq unlikely as, well, it just doesn't appear to be as good in any review/group test I have read, and the interior is cosy in terms of feel, despite actually being pretty large.

[TheDeuce]

Blib said:

Just back from the test drive. Our car was emblazoned with a '395 mile range' decal. The salesman backtracked from that rather rapidly. I couldn't get a definite number from him.

Sorry about that.

The car wasn't for us. The acceleration in 'sport' was fun on the A12. But, the ride was far too firm for our needs- thats not the car's fault, it's badged as a Mustang so it should feel sporty. But, I was underwhelmed by the whole experience.

I won't go any further than that. Other to say that we decided to check the back seats out and locked ourselves in, as the child locks were on. Luckily, Mrs B was able to chamber into the front seats - sans shoes - and release me.

So the only way the test drive could have been any worse was if you crashed it .. oh dear.

I was awaiting your thoughts as I've seen a lot of them on the road and am slightly curious about what they're really like. It seems a very good value package, but did that show? Did it feel cheap..?

Regards the ride do you think that's down to big wheels? Is adaptive damping an option? That transformed my iPace on 22" rims Vs the passive suspension one I tested on 21" rims. And of course, in sport you get the opposite as the dampers firm up which is great if the mood takes you.

[Blib]

I think the low profile tyres don't help. Nor do Suffolk hinterland lanes. The car feels large but the cabin is a bit oppressive for my liking. Though I far prefer a cream interior to a black/dark one.

The panoramic roof was heavily tinted too, which didn't help.

Mrs B enjoys driving. But, she didn't want to drive this and went so far as to call the ride 'nauseous'.

[TheDeuce]

Blib said:

I think the low profile tyres don't help. Nor do Suffolk hinterland lanes. The car feels large but the cabin is a bit oppressive for my liking. Though I far prefer a cream interior to a black/dark one.

The panoramic roof was heavily tinted too, which didn't help.

Mrs B enjoys driving. But, she didn't want to drive this and went so far as to call the ride 'nauseous'.

Thanks. Clearly you and the lady value a smooth ride so perhaps you really should look to an EV with adaptive suspension. It's really an eye opener/back saver. It also helps with nausea because it's always 'active' even when not in a specific ride mode. It's always acting to stabilise the car. The best combo is air suspension with active damping - the Mercedes EQC is excellent in that regard, although it is expensive. The iPace trick suspension is fantastic too but that's really expensive these days (no good lease deals anymore).

I'm not sure there is a really nice riding EV without spending a fair few quid because all EV's are heavy and as such all require some expensive underpinnings to counter the momentum of that weight. The Tesla model 3 standard/long range is probably the only one I have driven that I would say is particularly gentle and stable without the price tag.

[alishutc]

Blib said:

Just back from the test drive. Our car was emblazoned with a '395 mile range' decal. The salesman backtracked from that rather rapidly. I couldn't get a definite number from him.

That's because there *isn't* a definite number, any more than there is a definite number for how many mpg a petrol car will do. All the number is is a point of comparison under standard conditions. In the real world, there are too many factors in play to be able to reduce range to a single number.

[NMNeil]

alishutc said:

Blib said:

Just back from the test drive. Our car was emblazoned with a '395 mile range' decal. The salesman backtracked from that rather rapidly. I couldn't get a definite number from him.

That's because there *isn't* a definite number, any more than there is a definite number for how many mpg a petrol car will do. All the number is is a point of comparison under standard conditions. In the real world, there are too many factors in play to be able to reduce range to a single number.

Odd that the EPA tested them and only gave them an estimated range of between 247 and 314 miles on a full charge, depending on the model.
https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/

[ZesPak]

NMNeil said:

Odd that the EPA tested them and only gave them an estimated range of between 247 and 314 miles on a full charge, depending on the model.
https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/

WLTP is over 600km, so about 380 though.

[900sAds]

I have a Mach-e, a Standard Range RWD - have had it for a few weeks now.

Ford say it has a range of 280miles, however, at around 5c with the heater on, but using One Pedal drive - the range is displayed as 180miles.

[SWoll]

900sAds said:

I have a Mach-e, a Standard Range RWD - have had it for a few weeks now.

Ford say it has a range of 280miles, however, at around 5c with the heater on, but using One Pedal drive - the range is displayed as 180miles.

All going to depend on the type of trips you do, driving style, prevailing conditions, number of passengers/additional load etc.

We're hopefully at the point now where people don't expect EV's to hit the manufacturers optimum range figures 5 up, at motorway speeds, during a blizzard.

Edited by SWoll on Friday 25th February 12:15

[McAndy]

SWoll said:

900sAds said:

I have a Mach-e, a Standard Range RWD - have had it for a few weeks now.

Ford say it has a range of 280miles, however, at around 5c with the heater on, but using One Pedal drive - the range is displayed as 180miles.

All going to depend on the type of trips you do, driving style, prevailing conditions, number of passengers/additional load etc.

We're hopefully at the point now where people don't expect EV's to hit the manufacturers optimum range figures 5 up, at motorway speeds, during a blizzard.

Edited by SWoll on Friday 25th February 12:15

Even so, >35% reduction on a near 300 mile range is painful! Our 2017 Ioniq dips from 150 on the clock (160 after regen) in the summer, down to 112 on the clock in the very depths of sub-zero winter, but it quickly rebounds towards 120-130 during the chilly-but-not-cold springtime. Claimed range is 174 (achieved a couple of times during the summer months last year, including one fill-to-fill closer to 180!

[SWoll]

Our i3 was the the same, 180 miles in summer, 130 miles in the depths of winter in mixed driving. A 25% to 33% reduction seems to be par for the course in most cases and obviously the vast majority of EV's don't hit manufacturers figures even in the best of conditions to start with so seems worse.

The current eTron does seem less affected with a real world 15-20% efficiency drop over the winter months based on looking at the historical data in the app. It does struggle to get close to the 240-250 miles Audi quote at any point though.