Different (lighter) shade paint - new paintwork blended etc.
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Hi
Just had front end painted as there’d been a poor job done at sometime in the past. Anyway, bodyshop (not same one that did original bad job btw) advised redoing bumper/bonnet/wings and blended into doors for best finish. Colour of doors was used as source colour.
Have seen pics during painting process so happy that bodyshop has used one colour, done the blending etc. however the wings (and bonnet) appear slightly lighter than doors/bumper. Is this just really angles/to be expected or does the wings/bonnet need further coat of paint and/or lacquer or other rectification?
Just had front end painted as there’d been a poor job done at sometime in the past. Anyway, bodyshop (not same one that did original bad job btw) advised redoing bumper/bonnet/wings and blended into doors for best finish. Colour of doors was used as source colour.
Have seen pics during painting process so happy that bodyshop has used one colour, done the blending etc. however the wings (and bonnet) appear slightly lighter than doors/bumper. Is this just really angles/to be expected or does the wings/bonnet need further coat of paint and/or lacquer or other rectification?
Can't see an issue in your photos, but it will likely be different actually viewed in natural daylight.
Silver & pale metallics can be a PITA even when blended out on panels.
If you wanted to be absolutely sure that any variation viewed from any angle and under any lighting conditions is not down to a variation in shade between two or more different batches of paint no matter how careful the eyematch to the existing paint then the only option would be a complete respray from the start.
ETA Applying further clearcoats would have no effect other than increasing the thickness of the clearcoat, as its name suggests it's clear & doesn't alter what's under it.
Silver & pale metallics can be a PITA even when blended out on panels.
If you wanted to be absolutely sure that any variation viewed from any angle and under any lighting conditions is not down to a variation in shade between two or more different batches of paint no matter how careful the eyematch to the existing paint then the only option would be a complete respray from the start.
ETA Applying further clearcoats would have no effect other than increasing the thickness of the clearcoat, as its name suggests it's clear & doesn't alter what's under it.
Edited by paintman on Sunday 20th February 17:12
As Paintman sez,
Silvers can be a pain, sometimes the colour looks great in the booth but rubbish outside, likewise not so good in the booth but you put it outside and it's ok.
Photo's can be deceiving but I can see a small difference in the pics, maybe the painter didn't apply enough base coat during the paint and blending stage especially in to the door, coverage does look a bit light there.
Silvers can be a pain, sometimes the colour looks great in the booth but rubbish outside, likewise not so good in the booth but you put it outside and it's ok.
Photo's can be deceiving but I can see a small difference in the pics, maybe the painter didn't apply enough base coat during the paint and blending stage especially in to the door, coverage does look a bit light there.
It's probably a pearl silver,
Add to that the bonnet and bumper were painted off the car (which makes for a better job but increases the risk of a miss match) and you can get this problem.
Only you know weather or not it is acceptable to you, what have the body shop said when you talked to them about it ?
Add to that the bonnet and bumper were painted off the car (which makes for a better job but increases the risk of a miss match) and you can get this problem.
Only you know weather or not it is acceptable to you, what have the body shop said when you talked to them about it ?
Dracoro said:
Taking/speaking to bodyshop tomorrow.
Re terminology - Base coat is actual paint or primer? Clearcoat=laquer I assume.
Base coat is the colour,Re terminology - Base coat is actual paint or primer? Clearcoat=laquer I assume.
Clear is the lacquer on top. Just to add sometimes putting a lot of clear coat on to silvers and whites can also drag the colour down a shade, ie make it darker.
Is that code for “thicker coat”?
Yes, the bonnet/bumper was taken off but as per pic above, front wings were sanded and the sprayed/blended into doors.
If more clearcoat applied, that could make it appear a “little darker” thus resolving?
I assume a good wax would not have same effect as “darkening” panel? I also assume “ageing” won’t help? I.e. would look better over time?
Yes, the bonnet/bumper was taken off but as per pic above, front wings were sanded and the sprayed/blended into doors.
If more clearcoat applied, that could make it appear a “little darker” thus resolving?
I assume a good wax would not have same effect as “darkening” panel? I also assume “ageing” won’t help? I.e. would look better over time?
Dracoro said:
Is that code for “thicker coat”?
Yes, the bonnet/bumper was taken off but as per pic above, front wings were sanded and the sprayed/blended into doors.
If more clearcoat applied, that could make it appear a “little darker” thus resolving?
I assume a good wax would not have same effect as “darkening” panel? I also assume “ageing” won’t help? I.e. would look better over time?
I would imagine the sprayer thought he'd put enough basecoat on because it doesn't look bad in the booth photo.It only looks off in daylight,which can happen.Yes, the bonnet/bumper was taken off but as per pic above, front wings were sanded and the sprayed/blended into doors.
If more clearcoat applied, that could make it appear a “little darker” thus resolving?
I assume a good wax would not have same effect as “darkening” panel? I also assume “ageing” won’t help? I.e. would look better over time?
More clear will not fix that
Dracoro said:
I am no expert on these things but my colour perception is pretty good. (Based on photospectrometer readings and matching colours of aircraft interiors)To me, the door does not match the front or rear of the car. It seems to have a slightly yellow tinge to it - which I had noticed in your initial pictures too. I don't know why, but maybe someone else might be able to answer?? It might just be the angle of the panels perhaps causing it to reflect the ground more on the door???
Edit- I have looked at quite a few images of silver 911s and have 'convinced' myself that in dull conditions many of the doors look a slightly different colour. If they are specially lit or in direct sunlight they seem all right. Just my warped opinion.....
Edited by mike9009 on Sunday 20th February 21:17
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