OPC SERVICE v INDIE
Discussion
981SPYGANG said:
Has the OPC/Indie service cost gap closed?
Recently quoted £960 v £800….who is going to leave/ruin Full Main Dealer Service History for £160?
You'd be surprised at the number of Porsche owners with cars under warranty who quite laughably would willingly devalue their cars by £thousands with major warranty issues and implication too simply to save a couple of hundred quid.Recently quoted £960 v £800….who is going to leave/ruin Full Main Dealer Service History for £160?
You only have to read the current ongoing BMW thread about a mainstream BMW which was merely serviced slightly late WITHIN the main dealer network subsequently having problems claiming on the warranty to realise the obvious issues.
Never ceases to amaze.
The mind truly boggles.
Royal Jelly said:
Decent indy stamps carry the same weight as an OPC to anyone with a clue, and most of the time do a better job.
Your indy does seem expensive. I’m being quoted a £600 difference for an 8-year.
Appreciate some Indies might be better, re the Indy stamps carrying the same weight by your admission you have to rely on others (potential buyers) having a clue. Your indy does seem expensive. I’m being quoted a £600 difference for an 8-year.
I’m certainly pretty clueless when it comes to Indies.
£600 or guessing 40% saving on an 8 year is kinda where I think it should be. 16.6% on a 6 year not so much.
av185 said:
981SPYGANG said:
Has the OPC/Indie service cost gap closed?
Recently quoted £960 v £800….who is going to leave/ruin Full Main Dealer Service History for £160?
You'd be surprised at the number of Porsche owners with cars under warranty who quite laughably would willingly devalue their cars by £thousands with major warranty issues and implication too simply to save a couple of hundred quid.Recently quoted £960 v £800….who is going to leave/ruin Full Main Dealer Service History for £160?
You only have to read the current ongoing BMW thread about a mainstream BMW which was merely serviced slightly late WITHIN the main dealer network subsequently having problems claiming on the warranty to realise the obvious issues.
Never ceases to amaze.
The mind truly boggles.
I can see why people go down the indie route if it’s an older car, the savings are substantial, and it does not have a warranty.
av185 said:
You'd be surprised at the number of Porsche owners with cars under warranty who quite laughably would willingly devalue their cars by £thousands with major warranty issues and implication too simply to save a couple of hundred quid.
You only have to read the current ongoing BMW thread about a mainstream BMW which was merely serviced slightly late WITHIN the main dealer network subsequently having problems claiming on the warranty to realise the obvious issues.
Never ceases to amaze.
The mind truly boggles.
The Porsche after sales business model rests on making the Porsche warranty an essential component of Porsche ownership. Not that Porsche is unique in this but perhaps it is the most overt. You only have to read the current ongoing BMW thread about a mainstream BMW which was merely serviced slightly late WITHIN the main dealer network subsequently having problems claiming on the warranty to realise the obvious issues.
Never ceases to amaze.
The mind truly boggles.
Therefore Porsche use any and every lever available to it to “persuade” owners to pay money to Porsche rather than a third party under pain of losing warranty protection if they don’t. They have other tricks too: last year I put my Panamera in for a minor service at W London - a one day job. Day 1 was spent doing an unsolicited “health check” - finding things for me to spend money on (eg a new driver’s door window switch unit at £324 because one window lifter had lost its fingernail trimming-sized chrome plastic edge). It’s pretty unappealing.
If one is prepared to forego the Porsche warranty, things become more straightforward and choice opens up.
If, when you buy your Porsche, you expect to sell it with some Porsche warranty attached to it then Porsche servicing is obviously very important. If on the other hand, when you buy, you do so without a Porsche warranty or intending to let it lapse at some point, Porsche servicing is or will become less important.
OP: there are quite a few respected Porsche Indy service centres. Google plus forums will identify them pretty rapidly.
I'm not extending my 718 GT4's warranty but will be using my OPC for servicing for the stamps in the book in case I ever have to sell it. They're worth any additional cost on a car <10yrs old IMHO. For repairs I'll probably use my Indie unless it's something I think my OPC would be better at dealing with.
So I don't think it's as simple as OPC for warranty, Indie for everyone else.
So I don't think it's as simple as OPC for warranty, Indie for everyone else.
981SPYGANG said:
Hoofy said:
Newer car under warranty? Wouldn't risk losing the warranty. Older car? Indie.
Agreed.Hoofy just admiring your 21 year 4 month almost 10 posts per day commitment to PH Forums!
Twinfan said:
I'm not extending my 718 GT4's warranty but will be using my OPC for servicing for the stamps in the book in case I ever have to sell it. They're worth any additional cost on a car <10yrs old IMHO. For repairs I'll probably use my Indie unless it's something I think my OPC would be better at dealing with.
So I don't think it's as simple as OPC for warranty, Indie for everyone else.
True there is a ‘middle ground’…….I’ve done the same, not extended but OPC for stamps/history…..6 years old.So I don't think it's as simple as OPC for warranty, Indie for everyone else.
My experience is that work at Indies gets expensive as well. And for servicing it is so straightforward that getting the OPC stamp may well be worth it.
I had an astonishing (large) quote for some work from one of the very well regarded indies on here. Perhaps it might be 15-20% cheaper than an indie, but that's not worth it if you want to keep the stamps. And not having the stamps can only reduce the market of buyers. There's many more potential buyers not in the know than in the know as it were.
I had an astonishing (large) quote for some work from one of the very well regarded indies on here. Perhaps it might be 15-20% cheaper than an indie, but that's not worth it if you want to keep the stamps. And not having the stamps can only reduce the market of buyers. There's many more potential buyers not in the know than in the know as it were.
Always found my OPCs match any quote given as long as reasonable. They need the business as much as anyone else. Really is a no brainer for newer stuff as others have confirmed.
Take say 2 identical 4 year Porsches one with a full OPC history the other with part OPC history part indie, wonder which one has the higher value would sell quickest which history would be essential for 99.9 % of buyers and which one would be shunned by most OPCs and punted through the auctions for the very reasons listed. The gap widens even further for more specialist/GT cars and for obvious reasons.
Take say 2 identical 4 year Porsches one with a full OPC history the other with part OPC history part indie, wonder which one has the higher value would sell quickest which history would be essential for 99.9 % of buyers and which one would be shunned by most OPCs and punted through the auctions for the very reasons listed. The gap widens even further for more specialist/GT cars and for obvious reasons.
av185 said:
Always found my OPCs match any quote given as long as reasonable. They need the business as much as anyone else. Really is a no brainer for newer stuff as others have confirmed.
Take say 2 identical 4 year Porsches one with a full OPC history the other with part OPC history part indie, wonder which one has the higher value would sell quickest which history would be essential for 99.9 % of buyers and which one would be shunned by most OPCs and punted through the auctions for the very reasons listed. The gap widens even further for more specialist/GT cars and for obvious reasons.
Thanks good to know and yes agreed on the history.Take say 2 identical 4 year Porsches one with a full OPC history the other with part OPC history part indie, wonder which one has the higher value would sell quickest which history would be essential for 99.9 % of buyers and which one would be shunned by most OPCs and punted through the auctions for the very reasons listed. The gap widens even further for more specialist/GT cars and for obvious reasons.
BertBert said:
My experience is that work at Indies gets expensive as well. And for servicing it is so straightforward that getting the OPC stamp may well be worth it.
I had an astonishing (large) quote for some work from one of the very well regarded indies on here. Perhaps it might be 15-20% cheaper than an indie, but that's not worth it if you want to keep the stamps. And not having the stamps can only reduce the market of buyers. There's many more potential buyers not in the know than in the know as it were.
No work on these cars is cheap and see why people would choose indie for an older car.I had an astonishing (large) quote for some work from one of the very well regarded indies on here. Perhaps it might be 15-20% cheaper than an indie, but that's not worth it if you want to keep the stamps. And not having the stamps can only reduce the market of buyers. There's many more potential buyers not in the know than in the know as it were.
No right or wrong and each to their own but for me personally I prefer OPC to maintain history.
Hoofy said:
981SPYGANG said:
Hoofy said:
Newer car under warranty? Wouldn't risk losing the warranty. Older car? Indie.
Agreed.Hoofy just admiring your 21 year 4 month almost 10 posts per day commitment to PH Forums!
981SPYGANG said:
Hoofy said:
981SPYGANG said:
Hoofy said:
Newer car under warranty? Wouldn't risk losing the warranty. Older car? Indie.
Agreed.Hoofy just admiring your 21 year 4 month almost 10 posts per day commitment to PH Forums!
Half serious - I think if my post rate dropped, that would indicate that I'm in a job where I couldn't sit my fat arse at my desk posting crap on PH ie a bit of a problem.
Edited by Hoofy on Wednesday 23 February 12:40
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