The WTF, how can that happen? Rant.

[Chuck328]

Mods might, erm prob have an issue with the title...Sorry. But it's true.

Had a quick look, but is there a thread for that point when you get an evil failure of a component when DIYing?

Pal took his Tiguan round to mine to fit new front discs and pads. Easy job yes? No !

I do my brakes on all my cars, have done for years. Bolts, torque settings, copper grease etc etc, So......

TLDR/

Pagid, thanks for the bad ( new - brand new!!) bolt that shears off when tightening to mere 30nm.......

Did the front offside pads and discs, no bother.

Move to the nearside. I did the offside then let my pal do the near. All good. All done up to the last calliper guide pin bolt to tighten up.

" Eh chuck, this doesn't feel right"

Cue let me have a shot... yup that's wrong. Unscrew the caliper and find low and belhold the brand new bolt supplied by Pagid has sheared right off into the guide pin... bks.

Que 3 hours lost, including phone call to local Volks dealer ( we don't supply guide pins, you will have buy the calliper - £250 plus VAT).
Trip local breakers yard. Got as 2016 ish VW Tiguan on site? No.
Down to my local VW indi who I have used for years. Brave effort trying to help us but no luck.

Last effort ( I don't have a vice ) is down to another mutual pal who does have a vice, My broken bolt/screw removal tool and Brian's vice save the day.





fking Pagid!!!

Learning points/ Tips?

Go straight to the removal tool? In Hindsight , yeh.
Trust Pagid? Yeh, their track pads are epic. I know.

Bad batch of bolts? Possible. I think as we found out.

Anything else?

Like a rant - Yes. ( sorry)

Your turn...

[mickyh7]

I would imagine, like others, Paget source the bolts directly from China or India.
The company I work for did at one stage, we used to get bolts that were unthreaded,so poor was the Quality Control!
I bought Brembo discs and pads a few years ago, (from ECP), so badly manufactured, I took them back for a refund.
Big names, chucked out on the cheap these days. Lots of companies at it.

[.richard]

Hopefully you didn’t lubricate the bolt. Apparently should be dry. I got caught out on a cylinder head bolt. Different oils different friction. Expensive learning curve. Best of luck.

[t400ble]

The only issue I have had with Pagid is the thread size been wrong
Always checked now

[geeks]

Looks a bit crossed threaded to me, though that could be the pic

[IAmTheWalrus]

If this is just a bolt could you not buy the right size from a standard hardware store?

[Chris32345]

IAmTheWalrus said:

If this is just a bolt could you not buy the right size from a standard hardware store?

High tensile bolts arnt commonly found at hardware stores

[mickyh7]

Chris32345 said:

High tensile bolts arnt commonly found at hardware stores

Are they actually High Tensile?
They shouldn't strip or snap if they are.
Last time I bought pads (Ferodo), they came with 4 new Caliper bolts, they didn't look special to me, just looked like mild steel!

[bearman68]

Pagid have been a ECP brand for some time now, and are as dire as you would expect.

Why people use ECP is beyond me - cultivate a relationship with your local motor factors. Buy Apec, Allied Nippon, Brake fit, Juratec. These are what the trade use, and very rarely a problem.

Brake Fit in particular are superb brakes and very very cheap. But of course, no-one outside the trade would give them a second look.

[Evoluzione]

Looks like it was overtightened.

[stevemcs]

Got to be honest we have never had an issue with pagid, Apec on the other hand are pants and we never fit them unless absolutely stuck.

[mickyh7]

Evoluzione said:

Looks like it was overtightened.

Surely it would have stripped the cast iron female threads in the Caliper?
Not a high tensile threaded bolt as stated.
Looks like a substandard bolt to me.