Hit on roundabout

[Teddy Lop]

"turning right" or taking the second exit on a mini roundabout yesterday a car emerged from the left and hit the wing/wheel/door of the pax side; the clown thinks he had right of way because he saw a "straight road" between his entry/exit. No witnesses, police CBA.

Spoke to both mine (£800 xs and seem pretty meh) and his insurers and they intend to dispute.

I don't do well with insurers and feel it's like they gain more from having at-fault customers whom can be charged more in future premiums; anything I should be doing to fight my corner right now?

[vikingaero]

The only thing I can say is "dashcam". Whilst it may not have recorded the entirety of the incident, it would have proved your positioning on that roundabout.

[krisdelta]

If they have hit the side of your car, in what world have they entered the mini roundabout before you? Let your insurers get on with it - that's what you're paying them for. Make sure you quote the other parties made-up highway code nonsense.

[anonymous-user]

I imagine you'll most likely be looking at 50:50, or something thereabouts, in the absence of any reliable witnesses etc. Probably one to suck up and move on

[Smurfsarepeopletoo]

Might be worth putting a link to the roundabout, and then a diagram of where you were entering and exiting, and the same for the other driver, and someone on here may be able to give you some help.

[megaphone]

Indicators.

[Byker28i]

Southerner said:

I imagine you'll most likely be looking at 50:50, or something thereabouts, in the absence of any reliable witnesses etc. Probably one to suck up and move on

Roundabout - insurance like to call it 50:50, especially if Ageas and they insured both parties... even when there were police witnesses who noted she said she didn't see me on my motorbike...

Bitter - oh yes

[Phil Dicky]

As for Police CBA...non injury accident of course they won't come out. If they did its all they would do.

[Largechris]

I will assume you exited by changing lanes from right to left and clipped him. Easily done.

[Mave]

On a mini roundabout?

[Fastdruid]

A roundabout is a roundabout regardless of size. Traffic approaching it (normally[1]) needs to give way to traffic that is already on it and give priority to traffic approaching from the right.


[1] Unless the road markings allow you to enter without giving way.

[SmoothCriminal]

How can it be 50/50 this is not someone changing lanes.

If someone comes from the left and hits the side of your car how on earth is it 50/50.

So if someone pulls out of a side road without giving way and hits the side of my car it's 50/50 pffft

[Largechris]

SmoothCriminal said:

How can it be 50/50 this is not someone changing lanes.

If someone comes from the left and hits the side of your car how on earth is it 50/50.

So if someone pulls out of a side road without giving way and hits the side of my car it's 50/50 pffft

Because I suspect he did change lanes from right to left to exit the roundabout

[Jonny Wishbone]

We’ve got a few mini roundabouts close to my home which I now try to actively avoid for the reason described in the OP. It’s staggering the number of drivers I’ve seen, approaching from my left who get to the roundabout simultaneously with me or after, and yet neither slow down or even look to their right, simply because - I assume - they see a straight road and assume in that entitled way that they must have right of way.

[TimmyMallett]

Largechris said:

Because I suspect he did change lanes from right to left to exit the roundabout

On a mini roundabout?


There do seem to be a bunch of people that think at a mini roundabout that's replaced a simple 90 degree junction, as road planners seem to do, that they don't have to give way to traffic turning across them as they appear to think, you're not coming from the right, you're coming at them straight ahead. The amount of times I've indicated to turn right and oncoming traffic just doesn't stop....


Like this one

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.552679,-1.780644...

Edited by TimmyMallett on Friday 25th February 11:12

[sean ie3]

Surely a mini roundabout is 1 lane in and 1 lane out, if the other driver pulled into your car, not giving way to the right it must be his/her fault.

[Mammasaid]

You should try this one, where the council has deliberately extended the pavement/reduced the road width on the approach;

Now no-body turning right bothers with going around the roundabout.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.6488507,-2.73992...

[Fastdruid]

Jonny Wishbone said:

We’ve got a few mini roundabouts close to my home which I now try to actively avoid for the reason described in the OP. It’s staggering the number of drivers I’ve seen, approaching from my left who get to the roundabout simultaneously with me or after, and yet neither slow down or even look to their right, simply because - I assume - they see a straight road and assume in that entitled way that they must have right of way.

In a similar vein the the drivers who make the mistaken assumption that priority = right of way. If someone is established on the roundabout then someone approaching the roundabout (even from the right) needs to give way not assume they can barrel their way through it at high speed.

The priority to the right is if two people approach the roundabout at the same time, you let the person to your right enter the roundabout first (and then give way to them as they are on the roundabout).

There is a dodgy 3-way mini roundabout near me where the more major road is both downhill and the first exit has very poor visibility, get some cars absolutely flying through it (driving over the white spot) and more than a few times I've been established on the roundabout yet had to stop sharpish rather than be collected by someone who has no chance of stopping in time and intends on going straight over.

[Jonny Wishbone]

My solution, when I can’t avoid the small circles, is simply to give way to both right and left. No chance of getting into an accident that way.

[Ham_and_Jam]

Jonny Wishbone said:

My solution, when I can’t avoid the small circles, is simply to give way to both right and left. No chance of getting into an accident that way.

You’d be waiting all day where I live then