India accidently fires a missile at Pakistan
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I couldn't find a thread on this, but India has apologised after accidently firing a Brahmos cruise missile at Pakistan.
The missile seems to have followed a pre determined flight path headed towards a Pakistani Airbase but seems to have ran out of fuel.
How does one accidently set off a missile during maintenance?
Not exactly what the world needs at this moment in time.
The missile seems to have followed a pre determined flight path headed towards a Pakistani Airbase but seems to have ran out of fuel.
How does one accidently set off a missile during maintenance?
Not exactly what the world needs at this moment in time.
MuddyK said:
I couldn't find a thread on this, but India has apologised after accidently firing a Brahmos cruise missile at Pakistan.
The missile seems to have followed a pre determined flight path headed towards a Pakistani Airbase but seems to have ran out of fuel.
How does one accidently set off a missile during maintenance?
Not exactly what the world needs at this moment in time.
I've been involved in the aftermath of an accidental missile firing.The missile seems to have followed a pre determined flight path headed towards a Pakistani Airbase but seems to have ran out of fuel.
How does one accidently set off a missile during maintenance?
Not exactly what the world needs at this moment in time.
During exercises live missiles are often loaded on the launchers along with maybe one test/maintanence missle or a simulator rig. When you go through the firing routine you select the test missle, which gives the launch system the appropriate feedback. If you select the wrong missile then it's going to launch.
These days you are more likely to have the live missiles permenantly in their launch position (ie not stored in a seperate magazine), so selecting a test missile or simulator is even more important during exercises or maintenance.
98elise said:
I've been involved in the aftermath of an accidental missile firing.
During exercises live missiles are often loaded on the launchers along with maybe one test/maintanence missle or a simulator rig. When you go through the firing routine you select the test missle, which gives the launch system the appropriate feedback. If you select the wrong missile then it's going to launch.
These days you are more likely to have the live missiles permenantly in their launch position (ie not stored in a seperate magazine), so selecting a test missile or simulator is even more important during exercises or maintenance.
As I have very little understanding of these missiles, are they always pre set for a destination or do you have to manually enter a target before every launch?During exercises live missiles are often loaded on the launchers along with maybe one test/maintanence missle or a simulator rig. When you go through the firing routine you select the test missle, which gives the launch system the appropriate feedback. If you select the wrong missile then it's going to launch.
These days you are more likely to have the live missiles permenantly in their launch position (ie not stored in a seperate magazine), so selecting a test missile or simulator is even more important during exercises or maintenance.
There appears to have been a number of turns in the flight path, a flight altitude of 40,000ft and then just drops out of the sky about 300km into the flight.
Countdown said:
Slightly O/T but the Brahmos II looks pretty impressive. Mach 8, air-, sea-, and ground launchable 600m range. imagine haiving to face something like that.....
Even so, it's been a long time coming. Pakistan is pretty thin so I guess it was inevitable one day India will be able to hit anywhere in Pakistan. I just hope this "accidental launch" or anything similar doesn't provoke a war. Indian sub enters Pakistani waters, Indian airstrike in Balakot and now this missile.
What's to say the next event won't lead to a full scale war.
MuddyK said:
Even so, it's been a long time coming. Pakistan is pretty thin so I guess it was inevitable one day India will be able to hit anywhere in Pakistan.
I just hope this "accidental launch" or anything similar doesn't provoke a war. Indian sub enters Pakistani waters, Indian airstrike in Balakot and now this missile.
What's to say the next event won't lead to a full scale war.
India's been able to hit Pakistan for ages with MRBMs (Agni, Prithvi etc) - there is no competition in terms of quantity or quality (ever since Pakistan stopped being on good terms with the US). A war between them is highly unlikely and the main beneficiary would be China, especially since last year's incident on the LoAC. China is the main rival for India at the moment which is why it's joined "The Quad"I just hope this "accidental launch" or anything similar doesn't provoke a war. Indian sub enters Pakistani waters, Indian airstrike in Balakot and now this missile.
What's to say the next event won't lead to a full scale war.
MuddyK said:
98elise said:
I've been involved in the aftermath of an accidental missile firing.
During exercises live missiles are often loaded on the launchers along with maybe one test/maintanence missle or a simulator rig. When you go through the firing routine you select the test missle, which gives the launch system the appropriate feedback. If you select the wrong missile then it's going to launch.
These days you are more likely to have the live missiles permenantly in their launch position (ie not stored in a seperate magazine), so selecting a test missile or simulator is even more important during exercises or maintenance.
As I have very little understanding of these missiles, are they always pre set for a destination or do you have to manually enter a target before every launch?During exercises live missiles are often loaded on the launchers along with maybe one test/maintanence missle or a simulator rig. When you go through the firing routine you select the test missle, which gives the launch system the appropriate feedback. If you select the wrong missile then it's going to launch.
These days you are more likely to have the live missiles permenantly in their launch position (ie not stored in a seperate magazine), so selecting a test missile or simulator is even more important during exercises or maintenance.
There appears to have been a number of turns in the flight path, a flight altitude of 40,000ft and then just drops out of the sky about 300km into the flight.
At some point you need to give it its target, and it might as well be in the final seconds before launch.
98elise said:
I don't know how their cruise missiles work (I've only ever been involved with European/US weapons systems) however it would be very unusual for a missile to have a fixed target. It would make no sense.
At some point you need to give it its target, and it might as well be in the final seconds before launch.
So it can't really be an accidental launch at all right? Missile goes to 40k ft, makes a few course changes, and by chance heads to Pakistan. So that suggests programming? So it can't really be a "malfunction" can it? At some point you need to give it its target, and it might as well be in the final seconds before launch.
It wasn't carrying a warhead, nor did it self destruct. Just seems to have ran out of fuel/ or jammed communications (if that's possible) and just fell out of the sky thankfully not causing any damage or injury.
Weird. Maybe it was a rouge element, but surely he/she would have armed the thing then. Or maybe it was a test Pakistan's defenses kinda thing.
Weird anyhow as Countdown mentioned, the disparity between the armed forces are pretty significant. So what would be the need to "test" anything. Maybe it was just an accident? Weird as it was.
I find that hilarious. Europe on the brink of WWIII and someone in India accidentally sits on a red button. Even funnier if it genuinely ran out of fuel. There’s a joke in there somewhere about them not brimming it because of the current price of petrol, and thusly running out before reaching its target, but my brain is too tired to work it out.
(I’m aware these things don’t run on petrol…)
(I’m aware these things don’t run on petrol…)
I find that hilarious. Europe on the brink of WWIII and someone in India accidentally sits on a red button. Even funnier if it genuinely ran out of fuel. There’s a joke in there somewhere about them not brimming it because of the current price of petrol, and thusly running out before reaching its target, but my brain is too tired to work it out.
(I’m aware these things don’t run on petrol…)
(I’m aware these things don’t run on petrol…)
MuddyK said:
98elise said:
I don't know how their cruise missiles work (I've only ever been involved with European/US weapons systems) however it would be very unusual for a missile to have a fixed target. It would make no sense.
At some point you need to give it its target, and it might as well be in the final seconds before launch.
So it can't really be an accidental launch at all right? Missile goes to 40k ft, makes a few course changes, and by chance heads to Pakistan. So that suggests programming? So it can't really be a "malfunction" can it? At some point you need to give it its target, and it might as well be in the final seconds before launch.
It wasn't carrying a warhead, nor did it self destruct. Just seems to have ran out of fuel/ or jammed communications (if that's possible) and just fell out of the sky thankfully not causing any damage or injury.
Weird. Maybe it was a rouge element, but surely he/she would have armed the thing then. Or maybe it was a test Pakistan's defenses kinda thing.
Weird anyhow as Countdown mentioned, the disparity between the armed forces are pretty significant. So what would be the need to "test" anything. Maybe it was just an accident? Weird as it was.
I can't speak for other forces but tests are done as a matter of routine in ours. Sometimes you do everything for real except fire anything. Sometimes you use something that simulates the missile (electronically). Sometimes you fire (for real) at a target, sometimes you use real targets (aircraft etc) but track, and target only.
If someone f
ks up you could end up firing a missile when you don't intend to. As I said I've been involved in the aftermath of an accidental live firing, so it does happen. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff