So it's gone nuclear. Here's the scenario.
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If it happens in early April I'll be in Devon on holiday so may be "OK" initially, outside of early April I'll be likely either 20 miles out of Central London or 30 miles, depending on if I'm at work or not so will be vaporised which TBH I think is probably the better overall scenario.
anonymous said:
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Depends how many other countries also got nuked. South America, Africa, maybe India would be unlikely to join in a NATO vs. China or Russia conflict. If enough countries survived untouched they might be able to co-ordinate some sort of humanitarian response. Who knows? maybe Biden and Boris turn out to have a heart of gold and decide not to launch a retaliation. Life under Russia or China might not be as good as the UK but at least they are civilised.In that case just live long enough for help or a ship out of there to arrive.
HTP99 said:
If it happens in early April I'll be in Devon on holiday so may be "OK" initially, outside of early April I'll be likely either 20 miles out of Central London or 30 miles, depending on if I'm at work or not so will be vaporised which TBH I think is probably the better overall scenario.
Depends whereabouts in Devon. I’d imagine that Devonport would be on the hit list for a nuke. I'm almost at lands end living anyway so unless something down here is a target I'd probably survive the initial blasts.
My plan would be to hopefully find a fairly large boat, stock it up with as much food and water as possible and just head south.
I reckon I could navigate us to Africa, hopefully they didn't get hit and we could try and live there. At least I'd not have the nuclear winter on top of a normal Cornish winter.
I'm very mechanically inclined so in terms of getting stuff working and being useful where ever we end up I think I'd do ok.
My plan would be to hopefully find a fairly large boat, stock it up with as much food and water as possible and just head south.
I reckon I could navigate us to Africa, hopefully they didn't get hit and we could try and live there. At least I'd not have the nuclear winter on top of a normal Cornish winter.
I'm very mechanically inclined so in terms of getting stuff working and being useful where ever we end up I think I'd do ok.
"This is How I Live Now" is an interesting film. Quite recent, so strange that the turning point is a nuclear attack.
In short, if you're young enough to not realise what's going on and panic, living off the land in the country and staying away from the army trying to corral/consolidate the populace, should see you through...
In short, if you're young enough to not realise what's going on and panic, living off the land in the country and staying away from the army trying to corral/consolidate the populace, should see you through...
Getragdogleg said:
I'm almost at lands end living anyway so unless something down here is a target I'd probably survive the initial blasts.
My plan would be to hopefully find a fairly large boat, stock it up with as much food and water as possible and just head south.
I reckon I could navigate us to Africa, hopefully they didn't get hit and we could try and live there. At least I'd not have the nuclear winter on top of a normal Cornish winter.
I'm very mechanically inclined so in terms of getting stuff working and being useful where ever we end up I think I'd do ok.
Read 'On the Beach' by Neville Shute. That might disillusion you.My plan would be to hopefully find a fairly large boat, stock it up with as much food and water as possible and just head south.
I reckon I could navigate us to Africa, hopefully they didn't get hit and we could try and live there. At least I'd not have the nuclear winter on top of a normal Cornish winter.
I'm very mechanically inclined so in terms of getting stuff working and being useful where ever we end up I think I'd do ok.
If far enough away to survive the blast from a modern weapon, radiation would be unlikely to be a major issue providing you didn't venture into a target area. If there was a ground burst upwind then fallout would obviously be a complication, at least for the first couple of weeks, but that wouldn't be everywhere.
As for cancer, experience from Hiroshima where many survivors of the blast did experience high levels of radiation, was an average increase in cancer incidence of about 10%, the increase in cases taking about 2 years to kick in and peaking after 5 or 6 years.
among those receiving the highest dose of radiation the increase was about 45% reducing life expectancy by about 18 months.
Most self contained electronics such as car ECUs would either be unaffected or experience a temporary glitch. The issue with EMC is the surge generated in mains cables that would blow semiconductors. If there's enough of civilisation left to worry about power supplies, then there's enough to fix it.
Obviously a nuclear attack could pan out in such a way as to mean it would be impossible for the country to recover, but that's by no means inevitable or even particularly likely. Of course if everyone says 'no point in taking any precautions there is bound to be a 10 megaton warhead within a couple of miles', then even a more realistic attack could be unrecoverable.
So I'd want to survive if possible. Depending on the attack it might be possible to get back to a decent quality of life, and apart from selfish considerations the people trapped under rubble might appreciate somebody being around to dig them out.
As for cancer, experience from Hiroshima where many survivors of the blast did experience high levels of radiation, was an average increase in cancer incidence of about 10%, the increase in cases taking about 2 years to kick in and peaking after 5 or 6 years.
among those receiving the highest dose of radiation the increase was about 45% reducing life expectancy by about 18 months.
Most self contained electronics such as car ECUs would either be unaffected or experience a temporary glitch. The issue with EMC is the surge generated in mains cables that would blow semiconductors. If there's enough of civilisation left to worry about power supplies, then there's enough to fix it.
Obviously a nuclear attack could pan out in such a way as to mean it would be impossible for the country to recover, but that's by no means inevitable or even particularly likely. Of course if everyone says 'no point in taking any precautions there is bound to be a 10 megaton warhead within a couple of miles', then even a more realistic attack could be unrecoverable.
So I'd want to survive if possible. Depending on the attack it might be possible to get back to a decent quality of life, and apart from selfish considerations the people trapped under rubble might appreciate somebody being around to dig them out.
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