996 Turbo
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bow4444

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3 posts

48 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Hi all
Just getting an up to date feel for the current market.
I may be looking for a Porsche 996 Turbo
I have a budget of £37k
Has to be manual, dark leather interior, with full checkable service history.
If the budget won’t get me “the car” I may consider a C4s or 997 C4s but either if these has to have had an engine rebuild by a reputable “ Prefer Hartech” engine specialist.

trickywoo

13,608 posts

253 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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You are in the wrong forum to get maximum responses and I think £10k short.

SSWGB

42 posts

73 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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With that budget I'd personally be looking at a 997 4s but it's up to you of course


jimPH

3,981 posts

103 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Don't worry about the interior colour, it can be changed if need be, everything just bolts out easily.

Go by condition.


Tommie38

969 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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trickywoo said:
You are in the wrong forum to get maximum responses and I think £10k short.
Wow, I remember rough cars as low as £25k. Probably not what you have in mind, to be fair.

Very accomplished, I think of them as the GTR of an earlier generation (parking any badge snobbery).

A friend had one years ago and he let me drive it for a couple of miles. Very sedate, it was under third party cover so I wasn’t exactly going Chris Harris in it. I can’t actually remember the drive, but I do recall always being pinned back in the seat when he was driving. Non X50 car running standard boost, I’d imagine an X50 car with a boost upgrade would be very quick.

DanoS4

869 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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My last post got deleted as it was apparently advertising (although I didn't link to anything biggrin )

"f the budget won’t get me “the car” I may consider a C4s or 997 C4s but either if these has to have had an engine rebuild by a reputable “ Prefer Hartech” engine specialist."

There are other options akin to your alternative requirements in the classifieds - happy to advise further via PM wink

Dan

Fink-Nottle

389 posts

65 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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On PH alone there are seven 996 Turbos for sale at 40k or less. Just saying.

jimPH

3,981 posts

103 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Tommie38 said:
trickywoo said:
You are in the wrong forum to get maximum responses and I think £10k short.
Wow, I remember rough cars as low as £25k. Probably not what you have in mind, to be fair.

Very accomplished, I think of them as the GTR of an earlier generation (parking any badge snobbery).

A friend had one years ago and he let me drive it for a couple of miles. Very sedate, it was under third party cover so I wasn’t exactly going Chris Harris in it. I can’t actually remember the drive, but I do recall always being pinned back in the seat when he was driving. Non X50 car running standard boost, I’d imagine an X50 car with a boost upgrade would be very quick.
I don't get the X50 thing. The turbo tech in these cars is pretty ancient. A standard car with billet wheel turbos, injectors and intercooler is a much better option.

Digga

46,295 posts

306 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Superb cars. Very tuneable too.

Have at least two of everything that's expensive to run; turbos, actuators, wastegates, intercoolers etc. so read the bills and check everything's been service. Then get a good PPI.

North of England, get it to Sports 7 Classic. South, get it to 9e if you can.

trickywoo

13,608 posts

253 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Fink-Nottle said:
On PH alone there are seven 996 Turbos for sale at 40k or less. Just saying.
Only two are manuals. Just saying.

GT3Manthey

4,744 posts

72 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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bow4444 said:
Hi all
Just getting an up to date feel for the current market.
I may be looking for a Porsche 996 Turbo
I have a budget of £37k
Has to be manual, dark leather interior, with full checkable service history.
If the budget won’t get me “the car” I may consider a C4s or 997 C4s but either if these has to have had an engine rebuild by a reputable “ Prefer Hartech” engine specialist.
A Hartech rebuild is likely to be north of 15k ?

Not sure with a full rebuild you’d be likely to get a 996 TT unless it has absolutely galactic Mileage for 37k

Also bear in mind you might buy a car for 37k but take it to someone like 9 Excellence & you might be presented with an 8k bill for all the neglected bits .
It’s easily done .

I’d say for a decent car that been well cared for you should be looking at 45k or it all becomes somewhat of a false economy

jimPH

3,981 posts

103 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Crikey, looks like these are finally going up in price! About time too, might get some of my money back hehe

Digga

46,295 posts

306 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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GT3Manthey said:
Also bear in mind you might buy a car for 37k but take it to someone like 9 Excellence & you might be presented with an 8k bill for all the neglected bits .
It’s easily done .
More than £8k if gearbox is fked. These cars, even untuned, have tremendous torque and can be heavy on 'boxes.

The core engine is very strong and in the turbo tune, not over-stressed with revs. What can be costly is all the turbo consumables.

Plus, as with any older 996/7 they need fuel lines, coolant hoses and brake pipes checking/replacing.

GT3Manthey

4,744 posts

72 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Digga said:
More than £8k if gearbox is fked. These cars, even untuned, have tremendous torque and can be heavy on 'boxes.

The core engine is very strong and in the turbo tune, not over-stressed with revs. What can be costly is all the turbo consumables.

Plus, as with any older 996/7 they need fuel lines, coolant hoses and brake pipes checking/replacing.
I was trying to be slightly diplomatic but yes 8k can be 15k if you’re not careful .

My 996 4S was fully rebuild back in 2012 and the bill was 13k then . Gotta be 18/20 now I’m assuming ?

These can be money pits if you’re not careful

Digga

46,295 posts

306 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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GT3Manthey said:
Digga said:
More than £8k if gearbox is fked. These cars, even untuned, have tremendous torque and can be heavy on 'boxes.

The core engine is very strong and in the turbo tune, not over-stressed with revs. What can be costly is all the turbo consumables.

Plus, as with any older 996/7 they need fuel lines, coolant hoses and brake pipes checking/replacing.
I was trying to be slightly diplomatic but yes 8k can be 15k if you’re not careful .

My 996 4S was fully rebuild back in 2012 and the bill was 13k then . Gotta be 18/20 now I’m assuming ?

These can be money pits if you’re not careful
My 996 turbo gearbox rebuild was about £7k in 2014. yikes

A selection of the culprits:


Fink-Nottle

389 posts

65 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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trickywoo said:
Only two are manuals. Just saying.
So grab one. Just saying.

jimPH

3,981 posts

103 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Digga said:
GT3Manthey said:
Also bear in mind you might buy a car for 37k but take it to someone like 9 Excellence & you might be presented with an 8k bill for all the neglected bits .
It’s easily done .
More than £8k if gearbox is fked. These cars, even untuned, have tremendous torque and can be heavy on 'boxes.

The core engine is very strong and in the turbo tune, not over-stressed with revs. What can be costly is all the turbo consumables.

Plus, as with any older 996/7 they need fuel lines, coolant hoses and brake pipes checking/replacing.
Not completely bullet proof though! hehe


GT3Manthey

4,744 posts

72 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Big Rat

384 posts

69 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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As others have said the engine itself on the whole is pretty good as it should considering what’s it was based on…..but these cars are getting on now and yes the list of ancillary items already mentioned are expensive to buy and time consuming to replace…..I would also add to it heat shields….difficult to access pipe work ……front diffs……clutch issues…..

The much vaunted German engineering and quality really wasn’t in these cars IMO …..I did enjoy mine … do I miss it no…. Some pictures of mine from a few years ago pretty much in the spec the OP has mentioned





GT3Manthey

4,744 posts

72 months

Monday 14th March 2022
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Big Rat said:
As others have said the engine itself on the whole is pretty good as it should considering what’s it was based on…..but these cars are getting on now and yes the list of ancillary items already mentioned are expensive to buy and time consuming to replace…..I would also add to it heat shields….difficult to access pipe work ……front diffs……clutch issues…..

The much vaunted German engineering and quality really wasn’t in these cars IMO …..I did enjoy mine … do I miss it no…. Some pictures of mine from a few years ago pretty much in the spec the OP has mentioned




Looks like ceramics too ?