Macan S or GTS order
Discussion
Hello all, long time since I have been here. Try to keep myself away before I end up buying another car I don't really need.
Have had several 911 models over the years, but with kids now feels right time to possibly try a Macan. Plan to test drive soon and everyone I have spoken to about them has been positive telling me they drive 'a bit like a 911'...I will be surprised if that is the case but we shall see. Keen for some friendly advice from anyone who has one or recently ordered one.
My question is around lead times, the local dealer says that a Macan S would be available around December, the GTS longer. Does that sound reasonable or worth me calling around?
Given supply vs. demand at the moment, I assume no discounts available?
Final question - probably the unaswerable one, Porsche always have been reasonable with depreciation, I am definitley not up to date with prices, but if I buy new am I likely to get punished hugely if kept a couple of years? I have looked at pre-owned but seems prices are the same / higher than new which was slightly surprising.
Have had several 911 models over the years, but with kids now feels right time to possibly try a Macan. Plan to test drive soon and everyone I have spoken to about them has been positive telling me they drive 'a bit like a 911'...I will be surprised if that is the case but we shall see. Keen for some friendly advice from anyone who has one or recently ordered one.
My question is around lead times, the local dealer says that a Macan S would be available around December, the GTS longer. Does that sound reasonable or worth me calling around?
Given supply vs. demand at the moment, I assume no discounts available?
Final question - probably the unaswerable one, Porsche always have been reasonable with depreciation, I am definitley not up to date with prices, but if I buy new am I likely to get punished hugely if kept a couple of years? I have looked at pre-owned but seems prices are the same / higher than new which was slightly surprising.
The dealers are just guessing at lead times at the moment unfortunately. I have had an order for a Macan GTS placed, since September which was due in May, but with factories closed, it’s anyones guess when it will be delivered.
With regards to GTS vs S, I felt the GTS was noticeably quicker, and if it’s anything like the Turbo model it replaced, will hold its value quite a bit better than the S. by the time you add the options onto the S, the price difference isn’t as big as it first seems.
If you are expecting a 911 like experience, the Macan isn’t it in my opinion. A great “hyper hatch”, but it’s no sports car.
No discounts from my dealer, other than the normal ceramic coating and random goodies, but you would probably get £1k off if you ring around.
With regards to GTS vs S, I felt the GTS was noticeably quicker, and if it’s anything like the Turbo model it replaced, will hold its value quite a bit better than the S. by the time you add the options onto the S, the price difference isn’t as big as it first seems.
If you are expecting a 911 like experience, the Macan isn’t it in my opinion. A great “hyper hatch”, but it’s no sports car.
No discounts from my dealer, other than the normal ceramic coating and random goodies, but you would probably get £1k off if you ring around.
Edited by andyeds1234 on Sunday 13th March 19:09
Porkupine said:
Hello all, long time since I have been here. Try to keep myself away before I end up buying another car I don't really need.
Have had several 911 models over the years, but with kids now feels right time to possibly try a Macan. Plan to test drive soon and everyone I have spoken to about them has been positive telling me they drive 'a bit like a 911'...I will be surprised if that is the case but we shall see. Keen for some friendly advice from anyone who has one or recently ordered one.
My question is around lead times, the local dealer says that a Macan S would be available around December, the GTS longer. Does that sound reasonable or worth me calling around?
Given supply vs. demand at the moment, I assume no discounts available?
Final question - probably the unaswerable one, Porsche always have been reasonable with depreciation, I am definitley not up to date with prices, but if I buy new am I likely to get punished hugely if kept a couple of years? I have looked at pre-owned but seems prices are the same / higher than new which was slightly surprising.
My son just sold his GTS to Alexander’s Have had several 911 models over the years, but with kids now feels right time to possibly try a Macan. Plan to test drive soon and everyone I have spoken to about them has been positive telling me they drive 'a bit like a 911'...I will be surprised if that is the case but we shall see. Keen for some friendly advice from anyone who has one or recently ordered one.
My question is around lead times, the local dealer says that a Macan S would be available around December, the GTS longer. Does that sound reasonable or worth me calling around?
Given supply vs. demand at the moment, I assume no discounts available?
Final question - probably the unaswerable one, Porsche always have been reasonable with depreciation, I am definitley not up to date with prices, but if I buy new am I likely to get punished hugely if kept a couple of years? I have looked at pre-owned but seems prices are the same / higher than new which was slightly surprising.
https://www.alexandersprestige.co.uk/used-cars/141...
Well worth a look if you want one without 12 months wait.
Ceramic coated and partial PPF
Buster73 said:
Porkupine said:
Hello all, long time since I have been here. Try to keep myself away before I end up buying another car I don't really need.
Have had several 911 models over the years, but with kids now feels right time to possibly try a Macan. Plan to test drive soon and everyone I have spoken to about them has been positive telling me they drive 'a bit like a 911'...I will be surprised if that is the case but we shall see. Keen for some friendly advice from anyone who has one or recently ordered one.
My question is around lead times, the local dealer says that a Macan S would be available around December, the GTS longer. Does that sound reasonable or worth me calling around?
Given supply vs. demand at the moment, I assume no discounts available?
Final question - probably the unaswerable one, Porsche always have been reasonable with depreciation, I am definitley not up to date with prices, but if I buy new am I likely to get punished hugely if kept a couple of years? I have looked at pre-owned but seems prices are the same / higher than new which was slightly surprising.
My son just sold his GTS to Alexander’s Have had several 911 models over the years, but with kids now feels right time to possibly try a Macan. Plan to test drive soon and everyone I have spoken to about them has been positive telling me they drive 'a bit like a 911'...I will be surprised if that is the case but we shall see. Keen for some friendly advice from anyone who has one or recently ordered one.
My question is around lead times, the local dealer says that a Macan S would be available around December, the GTS longer. Does that sound reasonable or worth me calling around?
Given supply vs. demand at the moment, I assume no discounts available?
Final question - probably the unaswerable one, Porsche always have been reasonable with depreciation, I am definitley not up to date with prices, but if I buy new am I likely to get punished hugely if kept a couple of years? I have looked at pre-owned but seems prices are the same / higher than new which was slightly surprising.
https://www.alexandersprestige.co.uk/used-cars/141...
Well worth a look if you want one without 12 months wait.
Ceramic coated and partial PPF
Probably gives a good indication of how well the GTS holds its money. At least in todays market.
Thank you for the replies, which are extremely helpful.
I have had a look at the link at Alexander's and yes it appears over list which I don't want to pay, would rather wait as in no rush. However, I can see why your son may have sold it! If paying that money, would rather specify my own.
I will aim to drive one in the next week or two and then make a final decision.
Point taken, it will not drive like a 911. I just hope it is far from the Diesel Panamera I once had which nearly put me off the P cars for life !!!!!!
I have had a look at the link at Alexander's and yes it appears over list which I don't want to pay, would rather wait as in no rush. However, I can see why your son may have sold it! If paying that money, would rather specify my own.
I will aim to drive one in the next week or two and then make a final decision.
Point taken, it will not drive like a 911. I just hope it is far from the Diesel Panamera I once had which nearly put me off the P cars for life !!!!!!
somouk said:
A new GTS will also have the newer lineup engines and interior so well worth waiting instead of paying over book for the last shape car.
Hard to imagine that the petrol engines are going to be much different to what is currently available, I can't really tell the difference in my 12 month old GTS compared to my previous 4 year old one, not that there was anything wrong with either.They are not 911s, no, but they are closer to a 911 than to a diesel Cayenne imho.
Also the newer haptic interiors are of no interest to me, I like the old school switches everywhere.
I placed an order for a Macan S for the Mrs at the beginning of January and was quoted September delivery. Chased them for an update yesterday and was told that they are "optimistic of a swift turnaround" whatever that means. Still rather vague.
I had hoped a few people might be cancelling orders given the current fuel prices and the lack of any electric or diesel option so I will wait and see if that does help to speed things up. I've actually got a bit panicky of late and seriously considered canceling it myself given we usually do 20k miles a year in her car. However i'm sticking with it for the time being as there is literally nothing else we fancy, certainly nothing green or electric.
As for the Macan S vs GTS question, there were certain options that were non-negotiable for us that weren't included on either the S or the GTS (panoramic roof, sports exhaust etc). So once you added them on, the price hike for the GTS was still quite significant. If the GTS had included as standard some of the options we were adding to the S it could have been a very close run thing. Having said that, the Macan S was plenty swift enough for us when I drove it. Certainly a lot more enjoyable than her current Velar diesel that costs similar money.
I had hoped a few people might be cancelling orders given the current fuel prices and the lack of any electric or diesel option so I will wait and see if that does help to speed things up. I've actually got a bit panicky of late and seriously considered canceling it myself given we usually do 20k miles a year in her car. However i'm sticking with it for the time being as there is literally nothing else we fancy, certainly nothing green or electric.
As for the Macan S vs GTS question, there were certain options that were non-negotiable for us that weren't included on either the S or the GTS (panoramic roof, sports exhaust etc). So once you added them on, the price hike for the GTS was still quite significant. If the GTS had included as standard some of the options we were adding to the S it could have been a very close run thing. Having said that, the Macan S was plenty swift enough for us when I drove it. Certainly a lot more enjoyable than her current Velar diesel that costs similar money.
Edited by coates848 on Tuesday 15th March 15:33
Edited by coates848 on Tuesday 15th March 15:33
I have just driven aggressively over the alps ( used St. Bernard tunnel ) CH to the med .
In a SD .
On all seasons No rated .
I would say the std 80 / 20 split is perfect in capturing that 911 feeling .
I did get the rear to squirm out of uphill damp hairpins , you can feel the front extra pull in the steering as more drive is sent Fwds once the electrotwackery senses the rears loosing it .
The diesel is a torque wad between 1500 and 2000 which inho suits the car .Steering is a delight too , well the PS plus it looses it power the faster you go and feels better like a 911 .
Well impressed .
Av 38 mpg over 900 km helps subconsciously with the fun .Dunno why but it does .
In a SD .
On all seasons No rated .
I would say the std 80 / 20 split is perfect in capturing that 911 feeling .
I did get the rear to squirm out of uphill damp hairpins , you can feel the front extra pull in the steering as more drive is sent Fwds once the electrotwackery senses the rears loosing it .
The diesel is a torque wad between 1500 and 2000 which inho suits the car .Steering is a delight too , well the PS plus it looses it power the faster you go and feels better like a 911 .
Well impressed .
Av 38 mpg over 900 km helps subconsciously with the fun .Dunno why but it does .
Edited by Fiammetta on Tuesday 15th March 17:36
Have my GTS drive booked and looking forward to it.
The price differential is around £11k on list, but when I add options I need / want on both, the difference is around £6k, with the benefit of man maths of course the GTS then makes more sense...may depreciate less too !
Pan roof and sport exhaust also a must for me.
Slightly nervous about sinking so much cash into a mass produced petrol car in current times, but the drive will make the final decision I feel.
The price differential is around £11k on list, but when I add options I need / want on both, the difference is around £6k, with the benefit of man maths of course the GTS then makes more sense...may depreciate less too !
Pan roof and sport exhaust also a must for me.
Slightly nervous about sinking so much cash into a mass produced petrol car in current times, but the drive will make the final decision I feel.
Sounds like you've been having the same nerves as I have. To be honest i've rationalised it to myself by thinking about what exactly we would buy instead. And there isn't anything save for another JLR product that might be a bit more economical but nowhere near as appealing on any level, especially quality and emotion. So really for us it's the difference between going from a 35mpg (at best) diesel and a 28mpg petrol. Factor in the fact that petrol is cheaper than diesel and it it's maybe a grand or so difference in fuel costs per year. Ultimately the current sky high price of fuel shouldn't really affect our decision unless we were seriously contemplating a green or significantly more economical alternative, which we aren't. If fuel is dear for me, it's dear for everyone. That's my man maths right there....
Plus, there is a big part of me thinking that this really is the last chance saloon for cars of this type and next time around it really will be something with less character and soul. May as well go out on a high i'm thinking because in a 3/4 years time when we change I think the choice will be somewhat different.
Plus, there is a big part of me thinking that this really is the last chance saloon for cars of this type and next time around it really will be something with less character and soul. May as well go out on a high i'm thinking because in a 3/4 years time when we change I think the choice will be somewhat different.
Edited by coates848 on Wednesday 16th March 10:20
coates848 said:
I placed an order for a Macan S for the Mrs at the beginning of January and was quoted September delivery. Chased them for an update yesterday and was told that they are "optimistic of a swift turnaround" whatever that means. Still rather vague.
I had hoped a few people might be cancelling orders given the current fuel prices and the lack of any electric or diesel option so I will wait and see if that does help to speed things up. I've actually got a bit panicky of late and seriously considered canceling it myself given we usually do 20k miles a year in her car. However i'm sticking with it for the time being as there is literally nothing else we fancy, certainly nothing green or electric.
As for the Macan S vs GTS question, there were certain options that were non-negotiable for us that weren't included on either the S or the GTS (panoramic roof, sports exhaust etc). So once you added them on, the price hike for the GTS was still quite significant. If the GTS had included as standard some of the options we were adding to the S it could have been a very close run thing. Having said that, the Macan S was plenty swift enough for us when I drove it. Certainly a lot more enjoyable than her current Velar diesel that costs similar money.
Sports exhaust is standard on a GTSI had hoped a few people might be cancelling orders given the current fuel prices and the lack of any electric or diesel option so I will wait and see if that does help to speed things up. I've actually got a bit panicky of late and seriously considered canceling it myself given we usually do 20k miles a year in her car. However i'm sticking with it for the time being as there is literally nothing else we fancy, certainly nothing green or electric.
As for the Macan S vs GTS question, there were certain options that were non-negotiable for us that weren't included on either the S or the GTS (panoramic roof, sports exhaust etc). So once you added them on, the price hike for the GTS was still quite significant. If the GTS had included as standard some of the options we were adding to the S it could have been a very close run thing. Having said that, the Macan S was plenty swift enough for us when I drove it. Certainly a lot more enjoyable than her current Velar diesel that costs similar money.
Edited by coates848 on Tuesday 15th March 15:33
Edited by coates848 on Tuesday 15th March 15:33
coates848 said:
Sounds like you've been having the same nerves as I have. To be honest i've rationalised it to myself by thinking about what exactly we would buy instead. And there isn't anything save for another JLR product that might be a bit more economical but nowhere near as appealing on any level, especially quality and emotion. So really for us it's the difference between going from a 35mpg (at best) diesel and a 28mpg petrol. Factor in the fact that petrol is cheaper than diesel and it it's maybe a grand or so difference in fuel costs per year. Ultimately the current sky high price of fuel shouldn't really affect our decision unless we were seriously contemplating a green or significantly more economical alternative, which we aren't. If fuel is dear for me, it's dear for everyone. That's my man maths right there....
Plus, there is a big part of me thinking that this really is the last chance saloon for cars of this type and next time around it really will be something with less character and soul. May as well go out on a high i'm thinking because in a 3/4 years time when we change I think the choice will be somewhat different.
My logic is the same as yours. Plus, there is a big part of me thinking that this really is the last chance saloon for cars of this type and next time around it really will be something with less character and soul. May as well go out on a high i'm thinking because in a 3/4 years time when we change I think the choice will be somewhat different.
Edited by coates848 on Wednesday 16th March 10:20
Last chance to go for a proper petrol car and perhaps it will stay for a number of years, whereas in the past I usually change quickly.
It is going to cost more to run for sure and sensible will be electric ( I think there could be an electric Macan next year?) but I just don't think that will be as engaging a drive.
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