VW E-Up Lease deals (or similar)
Discussion
Listening to this week's Smith and Sniff Podcast, Richard Porter mentioned that he'd ordered a VW W-Up on a good lease deal. Available from stock.
Our current situation is that we're using thirsty old petrol cars for all of our family mileage (about 16k per year). In fuel alone this is costing us over £400 per month.
I'd already started to ponder just buying an old Leaf or Zoe and piling miles onto that. Even adding one as a fourth car would save us a lot of money. But I have to admit, spending the best of £10k on a well used early EV doesn't appeal at all beyond the fiscal reasons.
So back to pondering leasing an EV through my Ltd and trying to do at least 12k of our miles on that. I think that is practical as the vast majority of our mileage is sub 50 mile trips.
E-Up's seem to be about £200 per month on a 12k deal with a £1300 ish up front payment though lead times look like being 6 months+
A few questions:
1) Best place to look for an Up? Especially somewhere that might have stock?
2) What else should we look at that would do the same job? Must have 5 doors.
3) Do all these cars come with apps like our old Leaf did? Loved the pre-warming stuff.
Our current situation is that we're using thirsty old petrol cars for all of our family mileage (about 16k per year). In fuel alone this is costing us over £400 per month.
I'd already started to ponder just buying an old Leaf or Zoe and piling miles onto that. Even adding one as a fourth car would save us a lot of money. But I have to admit, spending the best of £10k on a well used early EV doesn't appeal at all beyond the fiscal reasons.
So back to pondering leasing an EV through my Ltd and trying to do at least 12k of our miles on that. I think that is practical as the vast majority of our mileage is sub 50 mile trips.
E-Up's seem to be about £200 per month on a 12k deal with a £1300 ish up front payment though lead times look like being 6 months+
A few questions:
1) Best place to look for an Up? Especially somewhere that might have stock?
2) What else should we look at that would do the same job? Must have 5 doors.
3) Do all these cars come with apps like our old Leaf did? Loved the pre-warming stuff.
Leasing.com
This place has them in stock apparently and is around the price suggested.
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/carparison...
You'll not find another EV close on cost based on previous searches I've done. And according to VW you can no longer order a new one either so will need to find a stock car.
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/e-up.html
Pre-conditioning is I believe standard fit and uses the We Connect smartphone app.
This place has them in stock apparently and is around the price suggested.
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/carparison...
You'll not find another EV close on cost based on previous searches I've done. And according to VW you can no longer order a new one either so will need to find a stock car.
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/e-up.html
Pre-conditioning is I believe standard fit and uses the We Connect smartphone app.
SWoll said:
Leasing.com
This place has them in stock apparently and is around the price suggested.
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/carparison...
You'll not find another EV close on cost based on previous searches I've done. And according to VW you can no longer order a new one either so will need to find a stock car.
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/e-up.html
Pre-conditioning is I believe standard fit and uses the We Connect smartphone app.
Cheers Swoll. The prices I'd be looking at earlier were inc VAT on here:This place has them in stock apparently and is around the price suggested.
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/carparison...
You'll not find another EV close on cost based on previous searches I've done. And according to VW you can no longer order a new one either so will need to find a stock car.
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/e-up.html
Pre-conditioning is I believe standard fit and uses the We Connect smartphone app.
https://zen.auto/configure?id=2092278&calculat...
The price on leasing.com site says ex VAT so 20% + more expensive which is a bit ouch!
Though the zen website quotes 30 week delivery so that might not be an option anyway.
Gad-Westy said:
SWoll said:
Leasing.com
This place has them in stock apparently and is around the price suggested.
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/carparison...
You'll not find another EV close on cost based on previous searches I've done. And according to VW you can no longer order a new one either so will need to find a stock car.
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/e-up.html
Pre-conditioning is I believe standard fit and uses the We Connect smartphone app.
Cheers Swoll. The prices I'd be looking at earlier were inc VAT on here:This place has them in stock apparently and is around the price suggested.
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/carparison...
You'll not find another EV close on cost based on previous searches I've done. And according to VW you can no longer order a new one either so will need to find a stock car.
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/e-up.html
Pre-conditioning is I believe standard fit and uses the We Connect smartphone app.
https://zen.auto/configure?id=2092278&calculat...
The price on leasing.com site says ex VAT so 20% + more expensive which is a bit ouch!
Though the zen website quotes 30 week delivery so that might not be an option anyway.
As above VW are not accepting orders on the car now apparently so you'd need to find somwhere that already has them.
Also try Leaseloco
https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/volkswagen/u...
A couple of providers offering 4 week delivery but similar prices to above.
ETA - Look like prices have jumped 10% very recently..
SWoll said:
Gad-Westy said:
SWoll said:
Leasing.com
This place has them in stock apparently and is around the price suggested.
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/carparison...
You'll not find another EV close on cost based on previous searches I've done. And according to VW you can no longer order a new one either so will need to find a stock car.
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/e-up.html
Pre-conditioning is I believe standard fit and uses the We Connect smartphone app.
Cheers Swoll. The prices I'd be looking at earlier were inc VAT on here:This place has them in stock apparently and is around the price suggested.
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/carparison...
You'll not find another EV close on cost based on previous searches I've done. And according to VW you can no longer order a new one either so will need to find a stock car.
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/e-up.html
Pre-conditioning is I believe standard fit and uses the We Connect smartphone app.
https://zen.auto/configure?id=2092278&calculat...
The price on leasing.com site says ex VAT so 20% + more expensive which is a bit ouch!
Though the zen website quotes 30 week delivery so that might not be an option anyway.
As above VW are not accepting orders on the car now apparently so you'd need to find somwhere that already has them.
Also try Leaseloco
https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/volkswagen/u...
A couple of providers offering 4 week delivery but similar prices to above.
ETA - Look like prices have jumped 10% very recently..
Richard Porter said on the patreon his is from https://www.drive-electric.co.uk/
I think it has the same app/controls as the eGolf.
I think it has the same app/controls as the eGolf.
sjg said:
Richard Porter said on the patreon his is from https://www.drive-electric.co.uk/
I think it has the same app/controls as the eGolf.
Brilliant, thanks. I'll follow that up. I think it has the same app/controls as the eGolf.
Gad-Westy said:
sjg said:
Richard Porter said on the patreon his is from https://www.drive-electric.co.uk/
I think it has the same app/controls as the eGolf.
Brilliant, thanks. I'll follow that up. I think it has the same app/controls as the eGolf.
For a small/town car the e-up has to be the king right now. We used to run a petrol one, it's honestly a really decent little car. It feels like a bigger and more solid car, 'a real car', compared to others in the segment. VW did a really excellent job on it and I can only imagine the extra nippiness of the EV variant will be even better.
The GTi up is also one of the most fun hot hatches you can buy - I hope they make a hotter EV version soon..
The GTi up is also one of the most fun hot hatches you can buy - I hope they make a hotter EV version soon..
Putting over 12k miles on an E up might be challenging, esp if most trips you say are 50 miles (that's less than 8000 miles if done every day) so I'm guessing lots of motorway.
In depths of winter with a38 trips my mums up gets around 110 miles with just her in the car and nothing else, and she never seems to go over 60, only owned since Oct so haven't tested summer temps yet, but would expect 140-150 in summer.
She's not tried rapid charging but it doesn't appear to be that rapid.
With the app no one told us we had to contact vw Germany to get the car enabled first.
In depths of winter with a38 trips my mums up gets around 110 miles with just her in the car and nothing else, and she never seems to go over 60, only owned since Oct so haven't tested summer temps yet, but would expect 140-150 in summer.
She's not tried rapid charging but it doesn't appear to be that rapid.
With the app no one told us we had to contact vw Germany to get the car enabled first.
I have an e-up via PCH since October. It's my 4th EV (after i3, Golf, M3P) and in many ways it's my favourite.
There's something satisfying about such a simple car where everything works without faff. It's more fun to drive than you'd think, especially in town and commuting but I wouldn't want to own one if I did a lot of motorway driving.
Although the battery size isn't large, it's very efficient. The WLTP range is 160 miles and the usable battery size is 32.3kWh so that puts it at exactly 5.0 kWh/mile and it's the first EV I've owned where it's easy enough to actually hit the claimed efficiency.
I just listened to the podcast and I agree with what Richard Porter said. It is surprisingly comfortable for such a small car. I used to own an UP GTI and it's hard to believe it's the same chassis. I guess the extra weight, larger tyre side walls and different springs/dampers make all of the difference there.
It's got a lot more kit than the GTI such as front heated screen, climate control, auto lights/wipers, parking sensors, rear camera etc but obviously missing a lot of tech that you get on more expensive EV's such as active CC and android auto, etc.
Downsides? It could definitely do with a bit more power. It holds it's own ok in town, etc but above about 30mph it's pretty gutless. Also top speed is limited to just over 80mph which can be a pain :/ If they did an e-up GTX I'd be at the front of the queue. Maybe the ID2 will be the answer. The 'eco' tyres are also rubbish and traction can be crap in the wet. I have been looking for better tyres but can't find anything sporty for the 'non-sporty' wheel size.
Also the rapid charging is slow. I've not done much of that but don't expect anything more than about 35kW.
I pay £167 a month for mine ( screenshot as I hardly believe it myself
) which was a total of £4450 for 24 months, 8k miles a year. I can definitely see me extending the lease in 18 months time as I'm getting on with it better than expected. I get free charging at work so the cost of running this thing is a bit nuts.
Photo from this morning's dog walk. It's a white fridge but I love it
There's something satisfying about such a simple car where everything works without faff. It's more fun to drive than you'd think, especially in town and commuting but I wouldn't want to own one if I did a lot of motorway driving.
Although the battery size isn't large, it's very efficient. The WLTP range is 160 miles and the usable battery size is 32.3kWh so that puts it at exactly 5.0 kWh/mile and it's the first EV I've owned where it's easy enough to actually hit the claimed efficiency.
I just listened to the podcast and I agree with what Richard Porter said. It is surprisingly comfortable for such a small car. I used to own an UP GTI and it's hard to believe it's the same chassis. I guess the extra weight, larger tyre side walls and different springs/dampers make all of the difference there.
It's got a lot more kit than the GTI such as front heated screen, climate control, auto lights/wipers, parking sensors, rear camera etc but obviously missing a lot of tech that you get on more expensive EV's such as active CC and android auto, etc.
Downsides? It could definitely do with a bit more power. It holds it's own ok in town, etc but above about 30mph it's pretty gutless. Also top speed is limited to just over 80mph which can be a pain :/ If they did an e-up GTX I'd be at the front of the queue. Maybe the ID2 will be the answer. The 'eco' tyres are also rubbish and traction can be crap in the wet. I have been looking for better tyres but can't find anything sporty for the 'non-sporty' wheel size.
Also the rapid charging is slow. I've not done much of that but don't expect anything more than about 35kW.
I pay £167 a month for mine ( screenshot as I hardly believe it myself
) which was a total of £4450 for 24 months, 8k miles a year. I can definitely see me extending the lease in 18 months time as I'm getting on with it better than expected. I get free charging at work so the cost of running this thing is a bit nuts. Photo from this morning's dog walk. It's a white fridge but I love it
SWoll said:
Gad-Westy said:
sjg said:
Richard Porter said on the patreon his is from https://www.drive-electric.co.uk/
I think it has the same app/controls as the eGolf.
Brilliant, thanks. I'll follow that up. I think it has the same app/controls as the eGolf.
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