Carbon tax on dining bills
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untakenname

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5,237 posts

213 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Have noticed the last couple of times I've dined out that there's been a carbon tax added on the receipt, it's only a trivial amount for now but both times I've asked them to take it off (I already pay over a thousand in VED on my cars due to the co2 banding).

The first time the waitress said it was policy and had to get the manager which took an age whilst the second time not wanting to cause a scene and wait five minutes whilst they recalculate I deducted it from the tip which didn't go down well with the other half, just wondered if it's even legal to add it to the bill without your permission?

It's a shame as both times the food and service was decent but the add on carbon tax means I won't frequent the establishments again.

Geffg

1,330 posts

126 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Not noticed the last couple of times I’ve been out but I won’t be paying it. As you said we pay enough green / carbon whatever tax for all this green issue crap. Get some nuclear power stations going and get rid of solar and the ugly wind farms at sea etc. When people are scared to turn on the heating because of the cost something has to be done surely. But then again the rich people who make the decisions aren’t concerned seen as they have more money than they can spend.

lornemalvo

3,804 posts

89 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Fecking ridiculous

ambuletz

11,492 posts

202 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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what next, the restaurant going to put their electricity bill on the bill? Higher bill for something that's slow cooked for 12hours vs a steak that's cooked for 5min?

ridiculous

cb31

1,335 posts

157 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Is this in the UK, sounds unbelievable? If I ever see it I will be asking for it to be removed from the bill, it is getting ridiculous.

RedAndy

1,291 posts

175 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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WHat??

if they try that on me I'll have to add in an appearance fee and deduct that from the bill.

untakenname

Original Poster:

5,237 posts

213 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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About to do the laundry and still have the receipt, noticed they call it a 'cfd donation' though as it's added automatically without being asked so should be titled surcharge.




The place prided itself on sourcing locally produced ingredients so the carbon footprint should be quite low anyway.

V8covin

9,134 posts

214 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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A quick Google says it's a voluntary donation to offset the carbon produced in making your meal by planting a fruit tree.
What hogwash

DaveGrohl

993 posts

118 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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What a fekking joke. They’re taking the utter p1ss. Planting a fruit tree? Presumably they’ll be digging up some grass to do it thereby releasing carbon into the atmosphere that will take 30 to 40 years to sequester.

anonymous-user

75 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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If it's compulsory i think it should be itemised like vat to actually see how much we are being screwed over by 'stealth taxes' for the gov rather than people thinking it's part of 'reasonable' costs of the business.

It's not done at the moment but should be done again, stickers on fuel pumps just reminding people how much hidden tax there is on a tank of fuel.

i don't think the gov were impressed with that initiative for some reason scratchchin

Pit Pony

10,632 posts

142 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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Why not just charge more for the food, and then if the restaurant wants to.make a charitable donation they can offset it against Corp Tax.

bigpriest

2,245 posts

151 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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A genuine commitment would simply say 'our prices include 2% for CFD'. Then you could decide whether to dine there or not.

Rick101

7,135 posts

171 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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Eat at better places!

Laughable.

Note you still paid extra anyway. These charges are designed for folk that are nonchalant. It's pure profiteering under the guise of green/charity/think of the children.

BoRED S2upid

20,908 posts

261 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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Never seen this. What utter nonsense. Are you Vegan or something wink

matrignano

4,671 posts

231 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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Wait until they starting adding a 12.5-15% discretionary service charge to your bill like most places do in London these days... you will have some fun conversations with the waiters then!

Mobile Chicane

21,741 posts

233 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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Just wait until the cost of living crisis starts to filter through....

Last month, £18.50 for 5kg of chicken breasts. It's £27.50 this week, an increase of just over a third.

Last month, £24 for 20ltr of fryer oil. It's £34.50 today with an unofficial warning that it's likely to rise to £45 next month. I hear that some wholesalers are reportedly charging £65 already.

The conflict in Europe's bread basket comes on top of last year's poor Canadian wheat harvest, which has already added to the cost of flour, bread and pasta.


21TonyK

12,813 posts

230 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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I've warned our finanace manager to expect a 20% overspend on ingredients. Cheese of all things... wyke farm mature cheddar gone from 25 - 40+ for a 5 kilo. We've had to move to some prepared chicken products as its cheaper than buying fresh and making your own. And, as we speak I am recosting our next menu and seeing where I can save some money.

vaud

57,528 posts

176 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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Mobile Chicane said:
Just wait until the cost of living crisis starts to filter through....

Last month, £18.50 for 5kg of chicken breasts. It's £27.50 this week, an increase of just over a third.

Last month, £24 for 20ltr of fryer oil. It's £34.50 today with an unofficial warning that it's likely to rise to £45 next month. I hear that some wholesalers are reportedly charging £65 already.

The conflict in Europe's bread basket comes on top of last year's poor Canadian wheat harvest, which has already added to the cost of flour, bread and pasta.
^^^ this
Like the start of the pandemic, I don't think people realise what is coming. And this time it is simpler supply / demand and shocked / stressed supply chains.