Can we get one thing straight please!!!
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On a point of correctness, I really dont like this new name nomenclature thing that has started since the Tuscan 2 was launched, and that is....calling the previous model the Mark 1.
The Griffith had a facelift around 1993, the Chimaera in 1996, the Cerbera in 1999/2000. No where do you hear them being called the Griffith Mark 1, Chimaera Mark 1 and Cerbera Mark 1.
But - we have, thanks to TVR, the Tuscan 2 - so by deafault, a "Tuscan Mark 1". It should, IMHO, be that they are referred to as "Tuscan" and "Tuscan 2". Those are the model names, given by the factory, and for the sake of correctness, be how they are referred to in the history books. We cannot be certain about S6 reliability, but WE CAN at least be correct about the model names!!
TVR have not exactly been revolutionary in any of their manufacturing technology. It has been more evolutionary marked be a series of incremental changes. At the end of the day, the chassis is still made from welded strips of tubular and rectangular steel, and the bodies from laid down layers of GRP. For marketing purposes, as with any other motor manufacturer, they extend the product life cycle of their products by facelifting them, thus giving people a reason to sell their old one and buy a new one. Without this, sales would dwindle. Afterall, most people would just happily hang to what they have got. So, it really is a sales tool - not so much a completely different product. To find someone who really knows what they are doing - look at Porsche who seemingly launch a new incarnation of the 911 (albeit under a different number) - every year!
So please everyone, its Tuscan and Tuscan 2, OK? :hehe:
The Griffith had a facelift around 1993, the Chimaera in 1996, the Cerbera in 1999/2000. No where do you hear them being called the Griffith Mark 1, Chimaera Mark 1 and Cerbera Mark 1.
But - we have, thanks to TVR, the Tuscan 2 - so by deafault, a "Tuscan Mark 1". It should, IMHO, be that they are referred to as "Tuscan" and "Tuscan 2". Those are the model names, given by the factory, and for the sake of correctness, be how they are referred to in the history books. We cannot be certain about S6 reliability, but WE CAN at least be correct about the model names!!
TVR have not exactly been revolutionary in any of their manufacturing technology. It has been more evolutionary marked be a series of incremental changes. At the end of the day, the chassis is still made from welded strips of tubular and rectangular steel, and the bodies from laid down layers of GRP. For marketing purposes, as with any other motor manufacturer, they extend the product life cycle of their products by facelifting them, thus giving people a reason to sell their old one and buy a new one. Without this, sales would dwindle. Afterall, most people would just happily hang to what they have got. So, it really is a sales tool - not so much a completely different product. To find someone who really knows what they are doing - look at Porsche who seemingly launch a new incarnation of the 911 (albeit under a different number) - every year!
So please everyone, its Tuscan and Tuscan 2, OK? :hehe:
unrepentant said:
Was the series 1 E-Type always the series 1 or was it just an E-Type before the series 2 came along? Also I seem to recall that the Jaguar Mk1 only became so called after the advent of the Mk2.
Dunno - they are all just E-Types to me. Was the series 2 badged a "Series 2" by Jaguar?
TUS 373 said:
Was the series 1 E-Type always the series 1 or was it just an E-Type before the series 2 came along? Also I seem to recall that the Jaguar Mk1 only became so called after the advent of the Mk2.
Dunno - they are all just E-Types to me. Was the series 2 badged a "Series 2" by Jaguar?
No.
But then nor is my Tuscan Mk2 badged as a Mk2.
Ahem, you meant Tuscan 2, didn't you? 
Am I wrong in thinking that the kickplates, if they have arrived for them, say/going to Tuscan 2? Therefore these is an element of model branding on the vehicle that alludes to the fact that is the 2, even if not badged on the back per se?
Edited to say: Is this thread being successful at least in taking attention away from engines for a wee while?
>> Edited by TUS 373 on Wednesday 3rd August 12:00
Am I wrong in thinking that the kickplates, if they have arrived for them, say/going to Tuscan 2? Therefore these is an element of model branding on the vehicle that alludes to the fact that is the 2, even if not badged on the back per se?
Edited to say: Is this thread being successful at least in taking attention away from engines for a wee while?
>> Edited by TUS 373 on Wednesday 3rd August 12:00
TUS 373 said:
Ahem, you meant Tuscan 2, didn't you?
Am I wrong in thinking that the kickplates, if they have arrived for them, say/going to Tuscan 2? Therefore these is an element of model branding on the vehicle that alludes to the fact that is the 2, even if not badged on the back per se?
Edited to say: Is this thread being successful at least in taking attention away from engines for a wee while?
>> Edited by TUS 373 on Wednesday 3rd August 12:00
Nope the kickplates just say Tuscan. When I bought my car I was told (another myth it would appear) that there were new plastic badges on order which would just have MK 11 on them, no "Tuscan" or anything.
I said that I wanted the originals, which I then had enamelled blue.
Not seen any with a new badge, if indeed they even exist.
Di
Thanks for that Di. Can't remember where I heard that or got that impression then? Is there a Tuscan 2 logo knocking around somewhere? Maybe I'm just confuzzled after seeing a Tuscan S badge with the red S on it.
Ah well. Only making some lighthearted banter here to take us away from the
threads!!
Ah well. Only making some lighthearted banter here to take us away from the
threads!!Correct me if I'm wrong..... 
and I'm sure you all will!
The Tuscan name has been used before, so I would have thought the mk2 should mk3 or mk4
Just call it a Tuscan, makes life simpler all round.
P.S. I also agree that you should lay off the 2000/1 versions as these are perfectly okay when you have had the engine rebuilt to 2004 spec and suspention upgraded to latest factory specs. (Which I have).
and I'm sure you all will! The Tuscan name has been used before, so I would have thought the mk2 should mk3 or mk4
Just call it a Tuscan, makes life simpler all round.
P.S. I also agree that you should lay off the 2000/1 versions as these are perfectly okay when you have had the engine rebuilt to 2004 spec and suspention upgraded to latest factory specs. (Which I have).
dvpeace said:
Correct me if I'm wrong.....
The Tuscan name has been used before, so I would have thought the mk2 should mk3 or mk4
Just call it a Tuscan, makes life simpler all round.
You know, the man is right. There was also an 1960s Griffith, just to complicate matters further. There you have it, even TVR have got it wrong. The "Tuscan Mk1" is therefore the new Tuscan 2. And the Tuscan 2 is actually a Tuscan 3. And the Griffith is the.....
You see guys, we have a moral obligation as guardians of the Tuscan to keep the history books straight. We certainly, at least, want to avoid confusion with that foreign 4x4, the Hyundai Tucsan (Mk1
) dvpeace said:
P.S. I also agree that you should lay off the 2000/1 versions as these are perfectly okay when you have had the engine rebuilt to 2004 spec and suspention upgraded to latest factory specs. (Which I have).
I have a 2000 with a 2003 rebuild, nitrons, suspension set up by a race team (TopCats) and one big welded on smile.
Now, if i could only get the bloody boot solenoid to work.........
Tuska said:
Now, if i could only get the bloody boot solenoid to work.........
SNAP!
Try thumping it........
Locate where the solanoid is housed (on mine it is about 1 ft to the left and half way down from the button) hit the car at that point and hey presto solanoid kicks back in.
This is more effective on the inside which is a wind up but well worth the try.
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