965 - What's involved in a service?

[BigGriff]

What is involved in a 6000 or 12000 mile service? anyone have a list?

Richard

[simonharrod911]

Why ask?

Just give them a blank cheque or credit card with an available balance in the tens of thousands, then sit back and wait for the invoice.

Have you seen the bit in Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels when the geezer realises he's lost £500,000 and his head sort of wobbles in complete and utter shock?

That's what I look like when I get my turbo bills.

[gr4eme]

Hi

I'm after a 964 turbo and did a little research into servicing and founds these. Hope they are of help to you.

www.northwayporsche.co.uk/servicing.asp

Northway do not state a 6k mile service (i thought it required one)

I'll carry on searching i'm sure the 6K service was oil change/filter and maybe tappets.

The 993TT was cheeper to service from what i recall - Think it maybe down the the fueling system

comments from other PH

Clubsport

965 turbo is probably the most expensive of the turbos to run....it has solid tappets unlike the hydraulic versions on the 993 which adds to labour costs on the major services......probably worth the expense though...a relatively attainable 400bhp and 2wd....Fantastic

[turbobloke]

Oil and filter every 6k but more can be done depending on owner and service agent. Tappets are 12k but I'd also like to see an 'official' list for the rest.

Once my 965 had been sorted for all the problems arising due to silly low mileage in the hands of its two previous owners - and received frequent and appropriate use since - everything has been fine. Wallet wilting has been at acceptable levels.

cue instant breakdown with blown ecu, oil leaks, blue and black smoke, bits falling off etc etc etc

[simonharrod911]

turbobloke said:

Oil and filter every 6k but more can be done depending on owner and service agent. Tappets are 12k but I'd also like to see an 'official' list for the rest. Once my 965 had been sorted for all the problems arising due to silly low mileage in the hands of its two previous owners - and received frequent and appropriate use since - everything has been fine. Wallet wilting has been at acceptable levels. cue instant breakdown with blown ecu, oil leaks, blue and black smoke, bits falling off etc etc etc

I must say that most of the £15,000 it's chewed up in the last 12 months has been because it's been stood for long periods in it's life.

[turbobloke]

simonharrod911 said:

I must say that most of the £15,000 it's chewed up in the last 12 months has been because it's been stood for long periods in it's life.

That's serious moolah for one year simon, to me at any rate. I trust everything will remain in order for you now for some time to come. My own fixit list consisted mostly of things with seals that need to be kept in contact with their fluids, or moving about, or warmed up occasionally, to remain healthy. At least that's what it seemed like, maybe ninemeister or another expert will post up to say I'm barking up the wrong service bill...gearbox input seal, oil cooler thermostat, brake master cylinder, aircon, etc, they all have that 'use me or lose me' feel about them.

The gearbox input seal was eventually sorted under warranty after much debate, it took the clutch with it. The rest wasn't, wear and tear (or lack of it, grrr). I've thrown considerable cash at the car overall but most was to uprate bits of it and no regrets there, these are over-engineered cars and work well when used properly. Touch wood.

[911nutter]

simonharrod911 said:

I must say that most of the £15,000 it's chewed up in the last 12 months has been because it's been stood for long periods in it's life.

could you give me a brief rundown as to what the 15k has gone into? that seems like a huge amount of money... makes me think i should offload mine before the next OPC service...

[verysideways]

£15K!!!!



that's why i drive a 993tt

*touch wood*

VS

[BigGriff]

Bloody hell £15k. Let's hope mine is less hassle. Thanks for the replies guys. I will still carry on looking for a list as I want to know what they are supposed to do.

Had a bad experience with one garage who claimed to have done a service but engineers found they had only washed the car and wiped round the oil filter. They got done by Trading Standards....

Richard

[turbobloke]

911nutter said:

15k... that seems like a huge amount of money... makes me think i should offload mine before the next OPC service...

...or maybe go to somewhere other than an OPC if total circumstances permit, somewhere with a service counter that doesn't make you chant 'take down my trousers and spank my wallet, Algernon' before handing the keys over

My 965 is nearly fifteen years old, I got it when it was just over three, and after those early fixes I mentioned below I've just totted up the bills and I haven't spent anywhere near £15k on servicing and repairs over the last ten years taken together, it's been less than 1k per year on average, sometimes considerably less.

Having seen your profile I'd think twice before unloading such a gem of a car (GT2) I'm certainly keeping the 965. Best of luck.

[ultra violent]

I'd say, all in it costs me about £1000 a year to run the car before fuel (and mods.....). Infact the main reason I started modifying the car was money that i'd put aside for running costs wasn't being spent...

[ninemeister]

Thanks UV, we appreciate your thriftyness over the previous years.



As for Simon, how the heck have you spent £15k on routine maintainence?

[simonharrod911]

OK, Not routine maintenance. Some bad luck on the way aswell. I'll try from memory.

Gearbox rebuild, complete braking system overhaul.

Then went in for service, small oil leak, and "blowing exhaust". The engineer is a good friend of mine so I trust him to do everything it needs without compromise when I first get a car. Certain things we did like brand new original heat exchangers because the old ones were passed their best, he actually said most people just would leave them as they were and live with it, but I wanted the car right. The exhaust system had some major bits changed, (forgive me I'm not technical), crossover pipe, etc, then we had a few disasters. The wastegate broke, so we decided to fit an FVD alternative to get some more power. New boost spring. The air con system packed up, then oil pipes needed doing. Should really get the jobcard this is a bit unstructured.

Speedlines were refurbed, but they weren't right and ended up being shipped back to Germany for a factory recondition. That was really reasonable actually, about £1500 and they're perfect.

New tyres.

I'm sure I've forgotten something fairly major, I'll have a look at the jobcard.

I know that my original comment was perhaps a little out of context considering what's been done, but I just wanted to put across that running a turbo can be scary financially. I know some guys who've tried to do it on a buget and got stung badly when things go wrong.

[911nutter]

Simon,

Wasn't any of that fixable under warranty?

The reason I'm getting the car serviced (and that 's the proper service not the check up after a few track days) at an OPC is because I understand warratnies are not extendable unless you have full main dealer history. Is this not correct?

Rob

[simonharrod911]

911nutter said:

Simon, Wasn't any of that fixable under warranty? The reason I'm getting the car serviced (and that 's the proper service not the check up after a few track days) at an OPC is because I understand warratnies are not extendable unless you have full main dealer history. Is this not correct? Rob

I bought the car as seen, knowing the issues(alright not all of them!).

[fatboyharris]

My last major 12k service (car having done 48k in total)was £1.4k.with an independant specialist. This was for a car that had only covered 1500 miles in the last six years (although serviced every year). The major element was labour as they went thru the car in some detail, including stripping the brakes down etc.Best money ever spent. But as in most things it is the lack use that is the killer of these cars and resultant heavy repair bills.