999 response on motorway through a TPAC exercise.
999 response on motorway through a TPAC exercise.
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surveyor

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18,689 posts

213 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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This video is interesting.

An emergency response who likes to film his driving (in a very nice Porsche) joins a motorway and gets involved in a TPAC exercise.

Some interesting moments make me question whether he made sensible lane decisions, and wonder whether pulling the exercise might have been sensible.

I'm sure it was a very dynamic situation where everyone did the best they could, but an interesting discussion point.




anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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The faces of the coppers would have been interesting to see; "who the f'ck is that in the Porsche?!..." laugh

Interesting side topic that has just occurred to me; is it accepted legally that a vehicle on blues, be it fire, paramedic or whoever, is permitted to pass a police vehicle engaged in controlling traffic, as we saw here?

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 25th March 19:59

MadCaptainJack

1,766 posts

69 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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surveyor said:
An emergency response who likes to film his driving (in a very nice Porsche)...
Ah yes, the exceedingly rare Porsche Octavia VRS estate! biglaugh


anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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MadCaptainJack said:
surveyor said:
An emergency response who likes to film his driving (in a very nice Porsche)...
Ah yes, the exceedingly rare Porsche Octavia VRS estate! biglaugh

laugh

I did wonder, noting that the roof cam showed a sunroof and rather un-Porker shaped bodywork, and the front cam suggested the car wasn't high enough to be a Porsche SUV!

surveyor

Original Poster:

18,689 posts

213 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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OK - I go that bit wrong smile

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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surveyor said:
OK - I go that bit wrong smile
Close! Sort of! biggrin

MadCaptainJack

1,766 posts

69 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Underneath the badge, it's all Volkswagen Group anyway...

Wildcat45

8,159 posts

218 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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I’m guessing that a genuine emergency trumps an exercise.

I like this guy’s channel. It’s great to get a view (literally) on other road users from the perspective of an emergency services driver.

pills

1,822 posts

266 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Interesting side topic that has just occurred to me; is it accepted legally that a vehicle on blues, be it fire, paramedic or whoever, is permitted to pass a police vehicle engaged in controlling traffic, as we saw here?

Edited by Southerner on Friday 25th March 19:59

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Yes we can go through a road block on a motorway under motorway exemptions. On other roads we still do but in both cases tend to be careful as unknown ahead.

Paul Dishman

5,399 posts

266 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Interesting watch, I've always wondered just how much margin emergency services leave when driving through traffic, having to deal with the possibility of somebody panicking at the sight and sound of the blues and twos, and inadvertently causing an accident.

donkmeister

12,837 posts

129 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Wildcat45 said:
I’m guessing that a genuine emergency trumps an exercise.

I like this guy’s channel. It’s great to get a view (literally) on other road users from the perspective of an emergency services driver.
Plus I like that he shows when he thinks he should have done better, and admits to sometimes overcooking things in the heat of the moment.

Wildcat45

8,159 posts

218 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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donkmeister said:
Wildcat45 said:
I’m guessing that a genuine emergency trumps an exercise.

I like this guy’s channel. It’s great to get a view (literally) on other road users from the perspective of an emergency services driver.
Plus I like that he shows when he thinks he should have done better, and admits to sometimes overcooking things in the heat of the moment.
I agree.

There was a Dutch guy called Robin did something similar. I think it was called Ambuchannel. He took his videos down. I’m assuming his bosses told him to do it.

matjk

1,112 posts

169 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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Unbelievable, I recognised the location (Letchworth longabout) right from the start, and then spotted my car in the video , I was mixed up with all the stopped traffic on the A1 , I was convinced this was a police training exercise, I vaguely remember the chased car having a police driver , but maybe I was wrong ,
It made my commute to work slightly more exciting than normal .

BossHogg

7,470 posts

207 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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Southerner said:
The faces of the coppers would have been interesting to see; "who the f'ck is that in the Porsche?!..." laugh

Interesting side topic that has just occurred to me; is it accepted legally that a vehicle on blues, be it fire, paramedic or whoever, is permitted to pass a police vehicle engaged in controlling traffic, as we saw here?

Edited by Southerner on Friday 25th March 19:59
I've had emergency vehicles pull along side me when I've been doing a rolling block. I've informed the crew working in the road by radio to move to the hard shoulder, once the carriageway is clear, I give the emergency vehicle the thumbs up to proceed.

pacenotes

416 posts

173 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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It's great what is on youtube these days. I subbed to him a few weeks before this, It's great to see people do the right thing and if one person watches and goes wait if I give that ambulance space it will get them there quicker it's doing its job!

There was an unmarked Volvo that also went through the rolling roadblock but couldn't keep up with the VRS.

I'd say the TPAC guys thought it was a good exercise, Would of added to the debrief. Maybe that video is now watched as part of the training?

Anyone know why the police would of been standing by the side of the road?

Up thread someone said they now can only do TPACs with a rolling roadblock, I can understand if it's a planned stop but wouldn't it take too long if something needs to be stopped quickly and unplanned?

And lastly how do go about getting a job as the runner? driving

BossHogg

7,470 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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pacenotes said:
Anyone know why the police would of been standing by the side of the road?
I'm pretty sure the video said it was the stinger crew.

surveyor

Original Poster:

18,689 posts

213 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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pacenotes said:
Up thread someone said they now can only do TPACs with a rolling roadblock, I can understand if it's a planned stop but wouldn't it take too long if something needs to be stopped quickly and unplanned?
I’ve seen it done without a rolling road block, admittedly that was probably the plan but the car doing that was stuck in traffic just in front of me. Not a pursuit situation though, they just jumped on to a transporter that was possibly unaware.

They were very reliant on the public doing the sensible thing and hanging back for a few moments, until the roadblock car wrestled itself in front.

Enut

1,003 posts

102 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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As has been said it's a Skoda rather than a Porsche. The guys Youtube channel is really worth a view, excellent examples of high speed, safe driving and very honest commentary, he even admits when he gets it slightly wrong, which is rare.

With regard to the TPAC exercise continuing, he may well have notified them when he saw what was going on and from their point of view continuing would have been good experience, i.e. coping with a non standard build up to the stop.

He's very unlikely to stop his blue light run as he is a first responder paramedic, I think.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Does that guy just have the roof bar or does he have the full monty grill strobes and alternate headlight flashing, etc?

I would like to have heard the radio messages from the Police in attendance trying to work out who he was and whether he was involved in it.

Shaw Tarse

31,887 posts

232 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Durzel said:
Does that guy just have the roof bar or does he have the full monty grill strobes and alternate headlight flashing, etc?

I would like to have heard the radio messages from the Police in attendance trying to work out who he was and whether he was involved in it.
His car https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy5dh3Y10c4