RE: Ariel Nomad R | Spotted
RE: Ariel Nomad R | Spotted
Tuesday 29th March 2022

Ariel Nomad R | Spotted

There's no such thing as a normal Ariel - but there is one madder than all the rest



For cars that seem so similar to the untrained eye, the Ariel Atom and Nomad are very different - and very tempting - propositions. Which is probably why Ariel can't make enough of them. The Atom is turbocharged and built for fast road or track use; the Nomad, with a naturally aspirated or supercharged 2.4, is really designed for off-road frolics. However, some weather protection and springier suspension also makes it a bit more suitable for driving longer distances than an Atom.

Then in one fell swoop the Nomad R came to represent both sides of Ariel in one limited edition model. Here was the off-road one, dropped via stiffer suspension onto lightweight wheels and track tyres. The 2.4-litre Honda engine was swapped for a 2.0-litre one - basically the Atom 3.5R powertrain, supercharged once more for the ultimate in visceral performance. A sequential gearbox as used in the really serious Atoms was also standard fit, pointing at just how focused this Nomad - once pitched as the farmyard plaything - had become.

The Nomad R was a daft idea because that's exactly what Ariel wanted; the aim was for something "a bit bonkers", and the car was certainly that. Here was a 340hp rally raid buggy, almost, that weighed less than 700kg and was only geared to 120mph - and featured track ready upgrades on top. 'A bit bonkers' probably sells the Nomad R rather short.



Ariel made just five in 2020, priced at almost £80,000, and all were sold before the car was announced. After all, nobody knows what car to offer Ariel customers quite like Ariel itself. The R doesn't really make any sense at all, but that is exactly the point. And clearly five diehard Ariel fans thought it sounded like a great idea.

This is one of the fab five, a Nomad R that's for sale after a couple of thousand miles unforgettable driving. It looks awfully like the car that featured in the PH video, with the same colours, wheels and Ohlins suspension. Plus this is a 2019 registered Nomad, and the R wasn't launched until June 2020, suggesting it might be the very first one. So a little bit of Ariel history, potentially, as well as one of the wildest driving experiences out there.

It's for sale at £100,000, which is a healthy premium over new price even accounting for the £5k suspension and £3k Road Pack. It's fully 50 per cent more than any other Ariel in the classifieds. But then the R was always tens of thousands more than anything else in the range, and delivery mileage Atoms are for sale at significantly more than their RRP - it's quite literally the price that must be paid to jump the Ariel queue. Add into that the incredible rarity of the R and the unrepeatable spec and it's easy to see why six figures is being asked. Moreover, five customers eagerly snapped up the R a couple of years ago; don't be surprised if a new member of the gang grabs this one before you can say 'loopy'.


SPECIFICATION | ARIEL NOMAD R

Engine: 1,998cc, four-cylinder supercharged
Transmission: Six-speed sequential, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 340@7,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 243@5,500rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 2019
Recorded mileage: 2,000
Price new: £77,400 (before options)
Yours for: £99,950

See the original advert here



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aestivator

Original Poster:

265 posts

61 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Ooh, I bet it's a bugger to clean.

RB Will

10,908 posts

271 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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aestivator said:
Ooh, I bet it's a bugger to clean.
It takes me about an hour to go round my normal Nomad, which is about the same as my other cars. You dont have the separate steps of cleaning the outside and inside, just treat is as a whole and snowfoam the inside too hehe

Frimley111R

19,419 posts

265 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Those wheels look odd.

RB Will

10,908 posts

271 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Can anyone confirm the road legality of this? It looks the same as mine as in it has no handbrake, hydro or mechanical, which I was told it needs to be road registered / legal. However this one and mine seem to be road registered, with road packs etc

SWoll

22,972 posts

289 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Love it, but £100k?

GTRene

22,788 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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hm, then I rather have this, same weight, maybe a bit less, but better weather protection if you want and ow, more power as well, they advertise 385+ its mostly 415 or so.

Donkervoort D8 GTO models.



they look long, but those are only 3740mm long and pretty wide wheel basis and ow audi 5cyll for the grunt.





those 5 cyl versions started back in 2013 or so, those early models looked more like this, not yet the full hard doors.





still expensive, even as a 2013 car, but I bet you can get one for that 100k gbp

Kipsrs

727 posts

80 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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99k? What am I missing? Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love Ariels and have had some great times in one but I just can’t see 99k’s worth of fun in this. .

Numeric

1,499 posts

182 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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I confess that the Nomad has become my dream car - you know the one you have never driven but just think it must be brilliant and you'd love one?

But this sort of feels like an odd mix, why not just go Atom?

With my epic lack of real knowledge, I think for me the normal Nomad just has more - perhaps charisma?


PH User

22,154 posts

139 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Such a fantastic looking car, I would love to drive one.

MDL111

8,934 posts

208 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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You’ll have to do some negotiating to get a D8 GTO for the equivalent of 100k

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

188 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Where do you use this in the UK. Its cool but I would need to live in like Dubai or Nevada to use it. The Atom seems more suited to British roads and tracks I am not sure there are many places in the UK you can drive off road at speed which then makes this a compromised road car. But hey its your £100k buy what you like

thegreenhell

24,417 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Frimley111R said:
Those wheels look odd.
They don't look right with such low profile tyres. They also make the brakes look comically small. The regular Nomad wheels look so much better with a nice fat sidewall wrapped around them.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Looks good but doesn't top the V8 Atom as the ultimate Ariel for me.

RB Will

10,908 posts

271 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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Gecko1978 said:
Where do you use this in the UK. Its cool but I would need to live in like Dubai or Nevada to use it. The Atom seems more suited to British roads and tracks I am not sure there are many places in the UK you can drive off road at speed which then makes this a compromised road car. But hey its your £100k buy what you like
I thought this too. Finally took the plunge and bought one this year (not an R, just a normal supercharged one) and have been having fun in it everywhere.
It isn’t the ultimate point to point weapon on the road compared to an Atom but is quick enough to give you some real fun, thrills and challenge.
Off road I’ve just been using local byways so far and you don’t have to be going fast fast to have a great time, you can still go sideways everywhere and feel like a hero at sensible speeds, 10-50mph but I am looking at getting onto some grass or dirt tracks with it.
Had it on a trackday recently, I’ve been tracking a variety of cars for about 20 years now and nothing has come close to the fun I had in the Nomad. Didn’t embarrass itself either speed wise, even through the corners.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

187 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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RB Will said:
Gecko1978 said:
Where do you use this in the UK. Its cool but I would need to live in like Dubai or Nevada to use it. The Atom seems more suited to British roads and tracks I am not sure there are many places in the UK you can drive off road at speed which then makes this a compromised road car. But hey its your £100k buy what you like
I thought this too. Finally took the plunge and bought one this year (not an R, just a normal supercharged one) and have been having fun in it everywhere.
It isn’t the ultimate point to point weapon on the road compared to an Atom but is quick enough to give you some real fun, thrills and challenge.
Off road I’ve just been using local byways so far and you don’t have to be going fast fast to have a great time, you can still go sideways everywhere and feel like a hero at sensible speeds, 10-50mph but I am looking at getting onto some grass or dirt tracks with it.
Had it on a trackday recently, I’ve been tracking a variety of cars for about 20 years now and nothing has come close to the fun I had in the Nomad. Didn’t embarrass itself either speed wise, even through the corners.
What tyres do you use for track day?

Is it as rear weight biased as an Atom? That handling characteristic kind of put me off an Atom but I love the Nomad.

GTRene

22,788 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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MDL111 said:
You’ll have to do some negotiating to get a D8 GTO for the equivalent of 100k
yes, nowadays with the higher price on second hands cars you would, often cash speaks without a trade in car.

your 100k gbp is about 118k euro, this garage asks 139k euro for this early 2013 example, but they have mostly to high priced cars, often 10-20% higher.

so it can happen that your 118k euro (100k gbp) could buy this car, I would not be amazed, or something like this, this is a 1 of 25 series, so I guess there is a little premium for such.

https://www.autowereld.nl/donkervoort/d8-gto/premi...

RB Will

10,908 posts

271 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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GroundEffect said:
What tyres do you use for track day?

Is it as rear weight biased as an Atom? That handling characteristic kind of put me off an Atom but I love the Nomad.
This time around I used MRF ZTRs as I had a spare set from my last car. Ariel recommend various Yoko options.

I’ve only passengered in an Atom on track so can’t really comment on the handling comparison.
Handling of the Nomad is very dependent on how you move the weight around. Get the weight on the nose and the back end will come out to play but it is very easy and progressive. Off the brakes into a corner and it was very stable.
I was quite surprised and pleased with how easy it was to control.
Mine is on the most basic suspension too, if you get the upgraded Blsteins or Ohlins they are adjustable and you can set it up how you like.


Bobby Lee

309 posts

86 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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SWoll said:
Love it, but £100k?
It’s just a toy isn’t it? Difficult to make a proper value judgement against anything else.

The number of mass produced lumps of crappy metal manufacturers ask (and receive!) 100k for these days is criminal anyway; I’d much rather see people buy something like this with a bit of character and joy to it.

wpa1975

14,853 posts

145 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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Bonkers but would never pay £100k for it, standard Nomad would be a better choice.

2smoke

233 posts

142 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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Does anyone know the lead time for a more standard Nomad from Ariel?

From what I've seen it's a car/toy you can own for a couple of years and not lose much financially, maybe an owner can comment here on the residuals?

Probably just a dream, but the man maths calculator always starts running in the background every time I see a Nomad..