Anyone familiar with Victorinox 241300 or similar movements?
Anyone familiar with Victorinox 241300 or similar movements?
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SistersofPercy

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3,568 posts

187 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Specifically they Victorinox Swiss Army 241300 Chrono Classic but others might be a similar movement.

Other half just bought one, one of his most wanted watches. It's arrived this morning and seems to be in pristine condition other than needing a new battery, but having a small issue with it.

On a normal watch turning the crown to set the time moves the fingers quickly and fluidly. On this watch the crown doesn't move the fingers quickly or fluidly. It takes a lot of turning to move the fingers. The instructions say a quick rotation of the crown will move the fingers by an hour. It doesn't. The digital display is linked to the fingers so they read the same time.

I've read a few reviews that suggest it's 'sluggish' to wind and having called our local Victorinox dealer he seems to think it's not unusual in certain movements, but he's taking it in for the guy to have a look tomorrow.

Anyone any experience?

gregs656

12,033 posts

202 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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I’d just have someone take a look if it’s not operating properly.

Just to help you in your discussions; where you use wind it should be ‘set’ and they’re ‘hands’ not fingers.


blingybongy

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167 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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gregs656 said:
I’d just have someone take a look if it’s not operating properly.

Just to help you in your discussions; where you use wind it should be ‘set’ and they’re ‘hands’ not fingers.
I think I prefer fingers.

gregs656

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Thursday 31st March 2022
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blingybongy said:
I think I prefer fingers.
To hands? I guess it depends where they're going hehe

BrokenSkunk

5,002 posts

271 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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I have a similar movement in a 1980's Tissot Twotimer. Similar in operation I mean.

On analogue quartz watches, the crown is mechanically linked to the hands. You turn the crown, it turns a series of cogs and the hand move.

On ana-digi watches, there are two approaches.
Most commonly the crown is linked to the hands mechanically as above, and the digital display is set by pressing buttons.

On watches like this, the crown is used to set both the hands and the analogue display. There is no mechanical link between crown and hands. Instead turning the crown operates switches in the watch, the send electrical signals to the watches brain and it advances the hands using the electrical motors that normally drive the mechanism.

It sounds like your crown is working properly but there is something in the instructions about changing the hour that isn't clear. Try adjusting the hours of the LCD display rather than the minutes and see if the hands follow. You could be adjusting the relationship between digital and analogue displays, whereas what you want to do is set the digital time (analogue will follow).

Short answer, you've told us enough to suggest that the crown is working and the the problem is user error.
I had a quick look but can't find a manual for this watch online.

gregs656

12,033 posts

202 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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The manual states what the OP has written in the first post - quickly turning the crown advances the hour hand by an hour, slowly turning it advances the minutes. On this watch.

SistersofPercy

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Friday 1st April 2022
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BrokenSkunk said:
I have a similar movement in a 1980's Tissot Twotimer. Similar in operation I mean.

On analogue quartz watches, the crown is mechanically linked to the hands. You turn the crown, it turns a series of cogs and the hand move.

On ana-digi watches, there are two approaches.
Most commonly the crown is linked to the hands mechanically as above, and the digital display is set by pressing buttons.

On watches like this, the crown is used to set both the hands and the analogue display. There is no mechanical link between crown and hands. Instead turning the crown operates switches in the watch, the send electrical signals to the watches brain and it advances the hands using the electrical motors that normally drive the mechanism.

It sounds like your crown is working properly but there is something in the instructions about changing the hour that isn't clear. Try adjusting the hours of the LCD display rather than the minutes and see if the hands follow. You could be adjusting the relationship between digital and analogue displays, whereas what you want to do is set the digital time (analogue will follow).

Short answer, you've told us enough to suggest that the crown is working and the the problem is user error.
I had a quick look but can't find a manual for this watch online.
Much appreciated. Thank you.
Taken it in to a Victorinox specialist today who’s looked at it and told me what the movement was (not a watch person as you can probably tell so I couldn’t even tell you what movement he’d mentioned) and said that it was pretty standard for this watch so happy all is functioning and it just takes a bit of getting used to.

Other half is happy anyway so all good.
Thanks again.