RE: Mini John Cooper Works superheated for N24
RE: Mini John Cooper Works superheated for N24
Wednesday 20th April 2022

Mini John Cooper Works superheated for N24

And you thought the GP was wild looking...



We've been treated (sometimes subjected) to a legion of special edition Mini hatches over the last two decades. Some of them have been as forgettable as a newspaper advert for trousers, others - most notably the trio of GP variants - have been wildly impressive. But not even the limited-edition flagship model has enjoyed the mechanical going over the new "Made in Nürburg" race car has received.

And for good reason. Because it has been built specifically to compete in next month's N24 spectacle, the 50th running of the world-famous 24hr thrash around arguably its most exciting circuit - all 25.783 glorious kilometres of it. Work started last September at Bulldog Racing, just next door to the Nordschleife. What began as a standard Mini John Cooper Works Hatch with 231hp gets a transplant - the 306hp 2.0-litre turbo 'four' from the JCW Countryman and Clubman models, not to mention the most recent GP. This includes a sports exhaust modified to incorporate a racing cat. Drive is sent through an eight-speed Steptronic auto and a mechanical limited-slip diff with up to 70 per cent locking potential.

A full cage is installed, along with a 100-litre fuel tank, lightweight Makrolon windows (as part of the extensive weight reduction) and a pneumatic jacking system. The racing suspension is adjustable for rebound and compression damping and jointed with reinforced Uniball bearings. And to add some downforce to keep the car planted through the many corners and undulations of the 'Ring, there's a front splitter, completely flat floor, rear diffuser and an adjustable rear wing. The brakes are sourced from the BMW M Performance division.

Pat Moss scored the first rally victory for Mini in 1962 (at the Tulip Rally), and from there Minis have won prestigious events including three overall victories at the Monte Carlo Rally (1964: Paddy Hopkirk; 1965: Timo Mäkinen; 1967: Rauno Aaltonen) and six Dakar Rallies (2012: Leonid Novitskiy; 2013: Stéphane Peterhansel; 2014: Nani Roma; 2015: Nasser Al-Attiyah; 2020: Carlos Sainz Sr.; 2021: Stéphane Peterhansel). To pay tribute to this racing history the Made in Nürburg will run in the classic Mini racing colours of red and white, and compete in the up-to-2.0-litre SP3T class.













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WCZ

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11,570 posts

225 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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now that's a proper wing

loudlashadjuster

6,549 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Hmmm. If you saw that rolling out of a MaccyDs car park you'd rightly ridicule it.

Oily76

258 posts

142 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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loudlashadjuster said:
Hmmm. If you saw that rolling out of a MaccyDs car park you'd rightly ridicule it.
Because it's an actual racecar, and not necessary for a trip to McDonalds?

benzinbob

750 posts

87 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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loudlashadjuster said:
Hmmm. If you saw that rolling out of a MaccyDs car park you'd rightly ridicule it.
The same ridicule one would direct at any race car pulling out of maccies you mean?..

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Indeed. It would attract lots of unwanted comments on the road, but wouldn't do so on a race track.

Baldchap

9,637 posts

123 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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That spoiler is brill.

RenesisEvo

3,828 posts

250 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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WCZ said:
now that's a proper wing
As someone who previously dabbled in aerodynamics for high level motorsport in a professional capacity, I can only disagree.

There's a lot about the aerodynamics on that car that don't pass close inspection, unless seen in the context of cheap and simple to manufacture and bolt on (the quality of the diffuser/underfloor provides evidence of this). The aero balance is going to be very rearward in my view, perhaps fine for stability at high speed but will increase understeer, especially with the leverage having the wing so far back from the rear axle.

Ocho

740 posts

268 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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RenesisEvo said:
As someone who previously dabbled in aerodynamics for high level motorsport in a professional capacity, I can only disagree.

There's a lot about the aerodynamics on that car that don't pass close inspection, unless seen in the context of cheap and simple to manufacture and bolt on (the quality of the diffuser/underfloor provides evidence of this). The aero balance is going to be very rearward in my view, perhaps fine for stability at high speed but will increase understeer, especially with the leverage having the wing so far back from the rear axle.
I have never come close to "dabbling" in aerodynamics, but I would love to know how such a huge rear wing and rear diffuser can really help on what is still (unless I missed something) a FWD car? as you've said, surely pusing the back down so much will lift the front leading to inevitable understeer, with little to benefit and make up for this?

Happy to be told I'm talking crap.

gmasterfunk

482 posts

179 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Please straighten up the exhaust.


romac

608 posts

177 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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I've come up with a brilliant acronym name for this: "Made in Nürburg Init" - MINI, oh wait...

el romeral

2,263 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Multi function spoiler, as it doubles up as a bike rack.

Krikkit

27,941 posts

212 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Ocho said:
RenesisEvo said:
As someone who previously dabbled in aerodynamics for high level motorsport in a professional capacity, I can only disagree.

There's a lot about the aerodynamics on that car that don't pass close inspection, unless seen in the context of cheap and simple to manufacture and bolt on (the quality of the diffuser/underfloor provides evidence of this). The aero balance is going to be very rearward in my view, perhaps fine for stability at high speed but will increase understeer, especially with the leverage having the wing so far back from the rear axle.
I have never come close to "dabbling" in aerodynamics, but I would love to know how such a huge rear wing and rear diffuser can really help on what is still (unless I missed something) a FWD car? as you've said, surely pusing the back down so much will lift the front leading to inevitable understeer, with little to benefit and make up for this?

Happy to be told I'm talking crap.
The answer is... It's complicated.

If set up properly then rear devices can help front device efficiency, and hence downforce levels.

As Renesis has said though, a big rear wing and a big diffuser will generally give you a very rear-biased downforce setup, when ideally you want it to match the weight distribution.

Unless it's constantly wagging its tail around then chances are that wing will be set to an almost-0 angle (if not a negative angle, looking at the photos), and hence used to try and clean up the airflow rather than provide downforce.

Chubbyross

5,014 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Gosh, April 1st has come round again fast.

Portofino

5,406 posts

222 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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gmasterfunk said:
Please straighten up the exhaust.
Yes, my teeth are itching.

asci.white

561 posts

104 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Krikkit said:
hence used to try and clean up the airflow rather than provide downforce.
Would that make it acting more as a spoiler, as apposed to a wing?

xcseventy

449 posts

107 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Surprised this isn't in the Sleeper thread.

Turbobanana

8,559 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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WCZ said:
now that's a proper wing
You mean one with its own post code? Yes!

Dombilano

1,480 posts

86 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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I'm sure there's a very clever reason why the wing is stuck so far out, but surely they could have made it look less like a botched DIY barry special

Krikkit

27,941 posts

212 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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asci.white said:
Krikkit said:
hence used to try and clean up the airflow rather than provide downforce.
Would that make it acting more as a spoiler, as apposed to a wing?
Kinda, although spoilers are used to detach flow from the edge of a surface, not further down.

redroadster

1,886 posts

263 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Needs balancing at front with some over styling.