RE: Zenos E10S | Spotted
RE: Zenos E10S | Spotted
Tuesday 26th April 2022

Zenos E10S | Spotted

Zenos wanted to be Caterham for the 21st century. Tough ask



"Supremely fast, usable, exploitable and, crucially, affordable... it may very well be the English sports car hundreds of us have been waiting for." That's what PH head man Nic said about the Zenos E10 after he'd tried it out in 2015. The aim was to provide a mid-engined two seater that would dish up all the driving fun of a Lotus Elise but at a more bargainaceous price. Simplicity and putting the end user at the pointy end of the development and ownership processes were key pillars of the proposition.

The story started off well. The founders were Ansar Ali and Mark Edwards who, after big-cheesing at Lotus and Caterham Cars, set up Zenos in Wymondham, Norfolk. The Zenos name reportedly came from 'zen', meaning er zen, and the Latin word 'os', as in osteopath, meaning spine. That wasn't a reference to discomfort but to the hybrid chassis which was formed from a steel safety cell bonded to an extruded aluminium spine with a recycled carbonfibre/plastic honeycomb cockpit. Suspension was double-wishbone. The bodywork consisted of 18 plastic panels that you could unmount and mount yourself. Dry weights were claimed to be as little as 700kg, depending on the model.

The basic non-turbo 200hp Ford 2.0 E10 was priced at a fiver under £25k, which was £5k cheaper than the equivalent basic Elise. It did the 0-60 in 4.5sec and topped out at 135mph. The E10S had a turbocharged EcoBoost 2.0 litre engine with 250hp and 295lb ft of torque, enough for a 4.0sec 0-60 time, a 0-100 in 11 and a bit seconds and a 145mph maximum. That cost £29,995. The range-topper was the £39,995 2.3 turbocharged EcoBoost E10R with 350hp, 350lb ft, 155mph and a claimed 0-60 of 3.0sec.


The Elise-beating prices were achieved by spartanising the spec. There were no doors, no roof, no heater, no stability or traction controls and no ABS. A full windscreen to replace the standard aero slice was a £1,700 extra. Other options included a 6-speed box (£1,595), uprated brakes (£1,195, the regular unassisted brakes needed a big push), LSD, Bilstein 'track' dampers (£795), heated driver's seat (£195), a get-you-home weather hood, tonneau cover, and removable steering wheel. Even if you didn't like the pricing structure you couldn't deny the fact that the Zenos finance package granted you access to a boggo E10 for £5k down and £399 a month for 60 months. By September 2016, 18 months after selling its first car, Zenos racked up its 100th sale.

Unfortunately, just a few months later Zenon went into administration having sold between 120 and 160 cars, depending on the internet. Half of them had gone to UK buyers and about a quarter to the US. Cancelled orders and a failed attempt to raise capital through a crowdfunding exercise were given as the reasons.

Employees were made redundant but the assets were bought in March 2017 by a consortium fronted by AC Cars. They were going to take E10 production from the UK to South Africa, where they had a manufacturing facility at which Noble chassises had been made. An announcement in October 2017 indicated that a new E10 was due to start manufacture in February 2018.


By this time prices had gone up. The 250hp turbo E10S which had been by far the most popular version was £35k. That price included the pretty much essential screen. The Zenos's main drawbacks - heavyish brakes and steering, and intrusive intake racket - were to be addressed in the new model by the fitment of six-piston brakes and a front-mounted water-to-air intercooler in place of the old sidepod-mounted (and not massively efficient) air intercooler. Power would be slightly hiked to 260hp and there was also going to be a better integrated roll cage. All these improvements were to be refro-fittable to the older cars.

We've had to use the future conditional tense in that last paragraph because as of April 2022 there was no sign of any of that stuff happening. However, as of the same date the website is still live https://www.zenoscars.com/ and if the rumours about Zenos production restarting later in 2022 with a projected annual output of 75 cars turn out to be true, then the prices for the three used cars that are for sale on PH Classifieds at the moment might right now may well seem highly tempting to anyone in the market for this type of vehicle. Even if nothing continues to happen AC Zenos-wise you can rest easy in the knowledge that expertise and spares are available through outfits such as 24-7 Motorsport in Norwich, who have some ex-Zenos people working there.

All three of the PH Classifieds cars have full windscreens and all are advertised as E10S models, although the power being quoted for the cheapest one suggests it's actually the base model. Of the other two E10Ss, our spotted is a delivery miles ex-collection specimen at £26,995. That represents a big saving on the £39,400 price paid for it new. The other one is this sub-4,000-mile car with intake and ECU mods hoisting the power to 280hp and all the 'extras' you could ever want. Yours for £24,995, which brings the story full circle in a way as that was the original starting price of a base E10.


SPECIFICATION | ZENOS E10 S

Engine: 1,999cc, 4-cyl turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 250@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@2,500rpm
MPG: NA
CO2: NA
Year registered: 2015
Recorded mileage: 80
Price new: £39,400
Yours for: £26,995

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p4cks

Original Poster:

7,547 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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If an MX5 and a Caterham mated, this is what I'd imagine you'd get.

Seems good VFM at the moment too

ChevronB19

9,226 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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‘chassises’?

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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This car linked in the article used to be mine.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12678038

It is an epic thing, I fixed most of the niggles and limitations it came with from the factory. They drive beautifully, engaging at any road speed and very quick when provoked.

If I were to buy it back I'd probably upgrade the intercooler and give the air intake a cold air feed.

The biggest downside for me was the four pot ford engine just isn't very tuneful and as it's direct injection with zero sound deadening it clatters away like a diesel at idle - but it is very, very effective.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted to buy it back, it's definitely a high days/weekend toy though.

SWoll

22,971 posts

289 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Shoud have featured the other one. far better colour scheme for starters.



Agree on the value statement as well, £25k will barely get you into a 10 year older Elise with half the power.

Sandpit Steve

15,590 posts

105 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Well that looks like a great value pile of weekend fun on four wheels! driving

redroadster

1,886 posts

263 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Pity as a company it failed maybe make it for more every day use and it would broaden market sales and profits needed.

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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SWoll said:
Shoud have featured the other one. far better colour scheme for starters.
It turns heads in that colour scheme, that's for sure! I never really got used to the level of attention I got in it.

They are absolute bargains IMO. There is a very active FB group for owners and spares availability is good. Most of the car apart from the tub/chassis and body panels is either off the shelf or easy to replicate and there are enough body parts and panels left to build something like ten complete cars IIRC.

Hoofy

80,169 posts

313 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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I wouldn't mind one... if it had an automatic box.

Come on, the poster above me said it should be more an everyday car.

KarlMac

4,627 posts

172 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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charltjr said:
The biggest downside for me was the four pot ford engine just isn't very tuneful and as it's direct injection with zero sound deadening it clatters away like a diesel at idle - but it is very, very effective.
I remember looking round a running one of these at Goodwood when they were in the press tour and wondering why they didn’t go for the 3 pot Ecoboost engine. Might not have hit the top level power numbers but would have at least made an interesting noise.

pb8g09

3,295 posts

100 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Stupid question but does this have a boot in the front?

Wondering if I could run this as a 1 car garage....

Leon R

3,935 posts

127 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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It doesn't have a roof!

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Nope, that's open to the road and is where the dampers live. There's no covered storage at all except a lockable cubby on the driver's side. There is also one on the passenger side, but the battery is in there. You can get soft bags (or cats) behind the seats and the footwells are surprisingly spacious if your passenger is willing to have something there too.



There is also the small matter of no roof, yes smile

aestivator

265 posts

61 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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ChevronB19 said:
‘chassises’?
'Chassis' is, as far as I am aware, the only word in the English language whose plural is spelled the same as the singular but pronounced differently.

'Chassises' isn't a word though, unless you're Gollum.

aestivator

265 posts

61 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Lovely looking car by the way, apart from the Focus gear knob...

Miserablegit

4,449 posts

140 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Or Tchassey if you’re a merry can

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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aestivator said:
Lovely looking car by the way, apart from the Focus gear knob...
I'm going to end up replying to every point in here, aren't I? smile

Yes, that's fair comment, it looks awful. However the majority of cars (including the one I had) have had it replaced with a Zenos branded aluminium ball gear knob. That became standard from the factory not that long after launch IIRC. It makes a huge difference.

samjlevy

284 posts

107 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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I'm seriously tempted by this for a track car / bit of fast road fun, can't see anything else that can compete for the money.

@charltjr, what are they like for reliability?

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Generally very solid - some silly foibles around not waterproofing the fusebox properly and things like that, all easily fixed.

I'd strongly recommend joining the Zenos owners group on Facebook - it's where all the experts and almost all the owners live and they'll be able to give you a good rundown. I've been away from the "scene" for a couple of years now so I'm not sure how the cars are ageing but I can't imagine there's anything giving too much concern.

They are really quite simple cars in most ways.

Bencolem

1,194 posts

270 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Zenos. Experience the thrill of belonging...

wolfracesonic

9,293 posts

158 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Miserablegit said:
Or Tchassey if you’re a merry can
…or a Yorkshireman.