Cycle Lanes - Should cyclist pay?
Cycle Lanes - Should cyclist pay?
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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This is not an anti cyclist thread as I know how partisan it gets biggrin

However, my Council is spending a feck ton of money installing cycle lanes and obviously reducing road width in most cases.

We pay Road Tax for the roads, surely the cyclist should have to register and pay an annual fee as well?

As a bonus it would cut random bike thefts dramatically if they were all registered with DVLA

Bill

58,899 posts

286 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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digimeistter said:
We pay Road Tax for the roads
No, we don't. HTH. smile

Dingu

4,893 posts

61 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Anyone got a cycling bingo card like the EV one that does the rounds?

frisbee

5,632 posts

141 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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If they could afford to pay for cycle lanes they would be driving cars instead. Even the 5 year olds!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Bill said:
digimeistter said:
We pay Road Tax for the roads
No, we don't. HTH. smile
Inciteful and informative smile

Thanks

AdrieBiemans

84 posts

95 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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I'd be more than happy to pay for quality cycle lanes that would improve safety and improve my cycling commute times. Unfortunately most cycle lanes in the UK are pretty poor by design and only seem to be there so whoever put them in place can give themselves a pat on the shoulder.

nickfrog

25,453 posts

248 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Bill said:
digimeistter said:
We pay Road Tax for the roads
No, we don't. HTH. smile
OP has indeed managed to fall even before the first hurdle.


Edited by nickfrog on Friday 29th April 19:18

AmyRichardson

1,997 posts

73 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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They're looking to encourage a behaviour (cycling) so they spend money on policies that encourage that behaviour.

Why, in a half-way rational world, would you then disincentivise that behaviour? That would be to ensure policy failure and wasted expenditure.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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nickfrog said:
Bill said:
digimeistter said:
We pay Road Tax for the roads
No, we don't. HTH. smile
OP has indeed managed to fail even before the first hurdle.
How so my learned friend?




Bill

58,899 posts

286 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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digimeistter said:
Inciteful and informative smile

Thanks
beer

nickfrog

25,453 posts

248 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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digimeistter said:
How so my learned friend?
Road tax was abolished in 1937.

As a cyclist, I pay 3 sets of VED though, as I have 3 cars. Plus I pay for the roads as part of general taxation.

Some drivers pay £0 towards VED.

Edited by nickfrog on Friday 29th April 19:23

JagYouAre

684 posts

201 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Dingu said:
Anyone got a cycling bingo card like the EV one that does the rounds?
Starts off 'this isn't anti-cyclist'. Check.

Complains about money being spent on cycling infrastructure. Check.

Some variation on 'I pay road tax'. Check.

I'm calling bingo right now! smile

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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nickfrog said:
digimeistter said:
How so my learned friend?
Road tax was abolished in 1937.

As a cyclist, I pay 3 sets of VED though, as I have 3 cars.

Some drivers pay £0 towards VED.
Call me thick, but I have to pay road tax, which requires registration.

As a cyclist you pay no VED as it is not classed as such, however, my point remains, which you have clearly missed spectacularly.

I did say this is not an anti -cyclist post, did I not? rolleyes

CrgT16

2,527 posts

139 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Pay for what?

What I think is that they should have a cycling license to use the public road. Basic understanding of the rules of the road makes sense if you want to use a road safely.

JagYouAre

684 posts

201 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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digimeistter said:
Call me thick, but I have to pay road tax, which requires registration.

As a cyclist you pay no VED as it is not classed as such, however, my point remains, witch you have clearly missed spectacularly.

I did say this is not an anti -cyclist post, did I not? rolleyes
There is no longer any such thing as road tax. VED is taxed on cars (most cyclists also have at least one car so likely pay VED). As I understand it VED has nothing to do with the upkeep of roads. Part of the revenue from other taxes (council tax/income tax etc, which everyone pays, even cyclists) is used to pay for roads.

Your point is that cyclists should pay for cycling infrastructure. The truth is, they do (we all do).

Gweeds

7,954 posts

83 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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digimeistter said:
Call me thick, but I have to pay road tax, which requires registration.

As a cyclist you pay no VED as it is not classed as such, however, my point remains, which you have clearly missed spectacularly.

I did say this is not an anti -cyclist post, did I not? rolleyes
You’re thick. There is no such thing as road tax.

The link has been provided above.

As Nick has pointed out plenty of cars pay zero VED, despite them needing to be registered.

But do carry on.

J4CKO

47,059 posts

231 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Also, cyclists on average tend to be higher earners who pay more tax, as, if we are honest it tends to be white, middle class males who are the main demographic for cycling.

Who also have cars and pay VED.

And dont use cycle lanes anyway biggrin

Most of them are a bit st, and are full of pedestrians and not suitable for doing 20 mph or more, so you end up too fast for cycle lanes and a bit slow for roads.






anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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JagYouAre said:
digimeistter said:
Call me thick, but I have to pay road tax, which requires registration.

As a cyclist you pay no VED as it is not classed as such, however, my point remains, witch you have clearly missed spectacularly.

I did say this is not an anti -cyclist post, did I not? rolleyes
There is no longer any such thing as road tax. VED is taxed on cars (most cyclists also have at least one car so likely pay VED). As I understand it VED has nothing to do with the upkeep of roads. Part of the revenue from other taxes (council tax/income tax etc, which everyone pays, even cyclists) is used to pay for roads.

Your point is that cyclists should pay for cycling infrastructure. The truth is, they do (we all do).
My point is they should be registered and taxable as road going vehicles, even if the tax is 0. Nothing more.



JAMSXR

1,853 posts

78 months

Friday 29th April 2022
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Local councils should be spending a shed load more on better cycling infrastructure. I would love to send my kids to school on bikes but the roads are too dangerous. There are so many verges, rivers and canals begging for a half decent cycle path.

I think there are about 1 million other things we should be sorting RE the tax system before we look at cyclists… Crazy world we live in.

Edited by JAMSXR on Friday 29th April 19:40